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i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree with you except for the blaming Trump voters part. I'm not going to pretend I think anyone who voted for Trump was informed or made a good decision, but I have some understanding of how they got to that decision.

Libs blaming voters are almost certainly: young, college educated, and privileged. I too am all those things, but I've tried to expose myself to the experiences of people who are much different than me. In doing so I've learned how their learned experiences inform their politics, and how someone like Harris (and the democratic party in general) did absolutely nothing to appeal to them.

Trump acknowledged their suffering and gave them a scapegoat to blame. Harris did not counter that narrative, she did not acknowledge their suffering, and she did not offer them anything that might improve their lives. All she had to offer was the idea that Trump was a fascist. She was right obviously, but Trump being a fascist is an abstract concept to understand, "immigrants are making your life worse" is very easy to digest.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I think this is a pretty good take. Aligns fairly well with this podcast, which seems like the clearest view I've heard so far.

The Ezra Klein Show: The Book That Predicted the 2024 Election

https://nytimes.com/2024/11/09/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-patrick-ruffini.html