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[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Okay, I hope Democrats legit physically block men from going in the bathroom while she's in the men's bathroom.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Everyone in the house with morals rises to follow her to the bathroom and stands guard. Epic.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

True, I was thinking of Congress in general.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

As long as they don't leave a quorum behind.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 23 points 3 days ago

Nah, she gets to go join the legislators having their private conversations in the mens' room.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

They need to just hire a bunch of trans men for their staff. Hundreds of men using the women's bathroom on the orders of Johnson would be fun.

[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

LMAO, dems are toothless.

[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Fortunately for her there are gender neutral bathrooms available so she won't have to

Edit: I am a trans woman and would never be willing to step into a men's room. Leave it to Lemmy to interpret my original comment in such a backwards bad faith interpretation.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And there were plenty of "colored only" water fountains.

The truth is that, here in the real world, gender-neutral bathrooms are always few and far between. And even when they can be found, they're usually single stall. And people use them for all sorts of purposes. Sometimes they're used as lactation rooms when proper facilities aren't available. Sometimes they're randomly locked. Or you might just get caught behind some asshole who decides to play on the phone for an hour. In a normal restroom, one person hogging the pot doesn't interrupt things. If there's only one stall, it does.

Separate but equal is never equal. It is never equal, because the majority never bothers to make the alternative ghetto they reserved for the minority truly equal in kind, quality, and character to that which the majority uses.

There is, however, a simple solution. Trans people can simply use the restroom that they feel the most comfortable in. If someone simply doesn't feel safe with the possibility of sharing a bathroom with a trans person, we have an option for them. They can use the single stall restrooms we've positioned throughout the building.

And really, this approach just makes more sense. The people who don't want to share bathrooms tend to tilt older and with more wealth and influence behind them. Thus, the bigots have a lot more political capital than trans people do. As such, if we require bigots to use the separate but equal restroom, the bigots actually have the better shot of insuring the restroom that corresponds to their needs is properly funded.

And finally, is this not the approach with anyone who has bigotries around bathrooms? There are still some racists out there who don't like sharing restrooms with people of color. And they cite the exact same vague irrational safety fears as bigots do. And we should tell both of them that if you have a problem using the common shared space, that you can go ahead and use the single-user restroom.

[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Yeesh, I'm a trans woman and I would never want to step foot into a men's room, which is why I remarked that despite this bullshit she won't have to step into one, so good for her. I was not endorsing this horrible bigoted move.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tell me you missed the point without telling me you missed the point

[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Uh, no, I'm a trans woman and I would never be willing to step foot into a men's room so I'm glad that despite this bigoted move she won't either.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She might not have to but there are plenty of trans staffers in the capitol who may not have access to a gender neutral restroom like she will have in her office.

What happens to them? This effects everyone in the building?

Me? I’d use the women’s room and sue them under anti-discrimination laws if they said boo about it. What we need is a legislator willing to do this. Not someone who just goes along to get along.

[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My understanding is that there are gender neutral bathrooms throughout the capital, on top of the private bathrooms each rep has in their offices. This is still a disgrace.

Sarah McBride is a very lukewarm centrist, she is not going to stand up for herself or anyone else unfortunately. She's a Zionist, so not exactly progressive.

I also would use the women's room in defiance of these rules. But I expect her to stick to the neutral ones and toe the line because that is who she is. It's easy to expect all trans women to be woke leftists/socialists/anarchists or even communists. But we are just a bunch of people with a medical condition in common.