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I'm eight minutes in to the video; I'm not making a judgment as to whether Sabine is good or bad, but the creator of the video's primary argument so far is that she's overly "anti-establishment." I don't find that to be a convincing argument against her.
You kind of need to watch more towards the end, he spends the early part establishing that she was not all bad(to make it look like he isn't just a hater).
His complete argument is not that she is "anti-establishment" but rather that she is consciously doing:
1- (20:00) Bad YT clickbait that panders to both science enthusiasts and science deniers. No matter our opinion on capitalism(consumerism etc) when chud flat earthers start quoting you that is bad yeah? She doesn't make specific arguments and rather just resorts to grandiose statements on how all of science now sucks and she doesn't even make arguments but just rants based on shit using tactics. like throwing a bunch of science terms people don't understand to make her sound convincing.
2- Sabine is embarrassing herself and the entire scientific community by generalizing her tiny field of experience and anecdote into making grand claims about things she literaly knows nothing about.
Here she is literaly science woman does big Dunning Kruger shit.
(23:00)For example the best example is she went on a hilarious rant that scientists were fabricating theories and evidence akin to biologists fabricating fictional animal species 200 years ago. She embaresses herself with just how confidently wrong she is given this is very much how we actualy made real progress(Higgs Boson). Particle scientists don't fabricate particles out of nowhere, we actualy make predictions of what particles should exist if our theories are supposed to correct.
She tries to mocks Particle physics by even misunderstandings what "Particle zoo" actualy means.
3-(30:00) In the end she provides nothing of value because she doesn't make specific arguments. She is the old men angry at clowds complaining that back in my day real men did real science.
But the reality is she could make real science educational videos since she is not actualy bad at it. But due to how YT works she is pandering to a large audience of science deniers(including climate deniers) that only care about her YT thumbnails anyway.
She is doing far more harm than good now. The view count on her videos is obvious evidence she is deliberately turning towards and pandering to the science denial viewers and this is not critique or useful at all.
I don't get what estabilishment we are supposed to defend here. Productivism in science where everyone's advancement and actual pay is contingent on cranking out as many papers as possible, inevitably leading to data fabrication scandals? That estabilishment?
Maybe it's different in the West but I haven't met a single researcher here who thinks the current state of affairs is a sacred cow. I'm sure many would be afraid of raising these red flags in an era where the United States is in the grips of anti-intellectual political thought. But these are two completely different things!
Yeah nobody objects this is bad if that was what she was actualy talking about!
The problem is this is not at all what she is doing.
You have to take into account what the anti-science chud crowd actualy views the world and how they engage with the content. They see "science is failling" and they go on to exactly extrapolate to e.g woke is bad see even science lady agrees!
If she actualy wanted to criticize the science paper factory she should clearly label and make sure this is what she is talking about.
Instead almost all her "science bad" videos are a combination of horrible Dunning Kruger shit by someone speaking completely out of her field, making hilarious mistakes and then extrapolating to all science sucks because I don't think particle physics has advanced in 50 years ~~ignore actual progress made~~.
As a result rather than criticizing the relation between capitalism and scientific progress she just panders to chuds who validate her anecdotal life experience. The difference in viewers she gets between science "enthusiast" viewers and chuds proves she is pandering more and more.
Yeah I watched this video and definitely picked up the same thing. I ended up feeling like there was room to (constructively) criticize Sabine, but this video didn't do a great job at making the case.
I didn't watch the video and I'm not all that interested. But I'm also never going to watch Sabine Hossenfelder again, not after she revealed herself to be not just a shill for capitalism like OP said, but also unapologetically transphobic.
(TW: Transphobia) I regret to inform you that Sabine Hossenfelder is now entering the Dunk Tank.
Sabine Hossenfelder on her Jordan Peterson arc
"""Physicist""" Sabine Hossenfelder Screws up on Trans Kids' Care [Rebecca Watson]
Capitalism ISN'T good. Let me explain. (Sabine Hossenfelder Doesn't Know What She's Talking About)
Hey thanks! Much more succinct than the video!