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FRSO's news organ does settler apologia in further proof yts will never lead the revolution (fightbacknews.org)

submitted 1 week ago by StalinistSteve@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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To put it as plainly as possible, if the proponents of the U.S. settler-colonialism theory are correct, then there is no basis whatsoever upon which to build a multinational working class communist party in this country. Indeed, such a view sees the “settler working class” as instruments of colonialism, hostile to the interests of the colonized people, rather than viewing all working and oppressed people as natural allies in the struggle against imperialism, our mutual oppressor.

A shame, a sad sad shame. For anyone that's read settlers, or knows about the history of labor zionism, or prioritizes any kind of indigenous voice in their praxis, this is really bad. No peace for settlers! Settlers cannot lead the revolution! I hope we see an end to any respect given to this "settler colonialism is over" politic soon.

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[–] StalinistSteve@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Settler interests are not a thing anymore in the United States, beyond maintaining the systems of power and consequences of previous colonial policy.

Listen Ive had this convo with you before, at this point don't say your idealogy has anything to do with the liberation of native/black people and tell it like it is, you want to organize with and for white people only. This shit doesn't fly for anyone that's interacted with the prison system, lived on a reserve, been priced out or kicked out of their land. It's ridiculous, you can't imagine settlers/yts not having a front and center place in the revolution I'm saying they need to be subjegated to the native/black proletariat ala EFF or BPP, or move back to europe. There's plenty of room for praxis, hell look at the EFF it's being done today in a settler colony like cmon

[+] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

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[–] StalinistSteve@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think you posting screenshots of our old conversations as to prove I just hate white people is much more vindictive. I'm sick of settler communist spaces leading action in the US and I do work with many other people who are as well. I am voicing things that are not unique to me or even this country and you are denying our real life experiences with angry attempted owns and half-responses, even if you disagree there is no need to be so combative to a viewpoint EXTREMELY common to natives in marxist spaces. You just push people away from marxism and keep it another white space. Talk about bad faith.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You live in a fantasy world you’ve made in your own mind. You’re acting like I have any problem with indigenous people AT ALL, and not that my problem is you frothing at the mouth about how white people keep ruining any Marxist spaces and that it’s YOUR space because YOU want it to be.

[–] StalinistSteve@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am trying to act in good faith but you are saying you "dont have a problem with native people" so if native people are uncomfortable with your rhetoric or settler communist spaces at large it is their fault. You are being actively hostile to the idea this should be bettered and denying the fact that this real life opinion even exists. Even if I outright hated all white people no matter what you need to understand that would come from a legitimate outright revolutionary place, and that if communism or marxism is actually to be the idealogy of the oppressed in America it will be made up in majority of those who have been hurt most by capitalist colonialism and its superstructure of white supremacy (even the white people!)

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And who are you to speak for all Native people? Or are you saying they are a monolith who share your identical approach? Or are those other native people wrong and only you're right?

Neither am I hostile to the idea they should be bettered. You can keep making any claim you'd like, that doesn't make it true. So please, stop trying to shove words into my mouth.