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Luigi's Manifesto - Thanks Ken Klipz (www.kenklippenstein.com)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by ChestRockwell@hexbear.net to c/news@hexbear.net
 

Kenny Klipz has the goods. This is the real thing, most likely.

BTW it's not behind paywall so do our guy some good and give him some traffic for the scoop.

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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

this is a fed excercisse in creative writing..

fedposting

how are you all falling for this shit ?

even prepares that they Dont have much evidence on his computer : "The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there"

if i where the Jury i would not be convinced . looks all to plannted .. why does he suddenly wants to be caught ?

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, if it is, it's at least "real" in the sense as the one that feds have had and are leaking to the media (versus the forgery ppl were talking about the past day or two).

Ken has good sources and is generally reliable, plus this echoes stuff that's been said by the outlets selectively leaking bits.

If you want to assume it's fed, that's on you (i'm ambivalent if this is a patsy situation or not myself), but this is the "manifesto" in the sense of the thing that is alleged to have been on him. I trust Ken that far at least.

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Edit : Sorry , did read it wrong

the Super escapist went , dressed with his murder cloths and with his murder Weapon, into the Mc donald, he also Wrote a Manifest that explainse the lack of evidence on his computer , and in which he thanked us the cops ,as Cops are Awsome! , for their valuable service to the community"

fedposting

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah to clarify: I can totally buy it's a fed fabrication, but even so, it is the "real" manifesto that we're going to get. I'm not fully persuaded it's a forgery or not - we could read the cop praise as typical american brainworms (one too many SVU's) but it could also be the-pigs madlibs.

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

when somebody kills a royal price , the King will hang somebody on the Market square. And before he will make him "uninspiring".

If you are "undecided " if this is real or fake , your actualy violating a basic prinicple of justice . the "Guilty" until proven innoncent .. and you help therefore to frame him guilty and therefore allready half way where they want you.

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even if it's a setup we should engage with what's out there, rather than just yelling "wake up sheeple." Especially because for many libs this will be persuasive, and we should use the "manifesto" and events such as they are to further our ends.

I'm not fully convinced he's not a patsy, but until more evidence that he is a patsy arises, we need to engage the libs where they are rather than turn them off with "it's all a setup don't you see!" I get your skepticism comrade, but I also just don't see the value in rejecting this outright - if it's what's going to be discussed as the shooter's manifesto, we should reckon with it (even if we might harbor suspicions of fed meddling).

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not fully convinced he's not a patsy

why would you say such a thing , why not have not more responsibility ..

if he is : He clearly isnt

if he isnt : he clearly isnt as well and you help the State murder some random fuck to demonstrate its power .. why not leave the "everything is entertaiment" sphere for a moment .

Your social duty is to scream from every ucking rooftop that he is a Patsy set up. Nothing else .

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

What if he makes definitive statements that yes it was him and he doesn't regret it? Is he then an asset who did this on behalf of an alphabet org?

I also doubt the security footage looks anything like this guy, and I think its bizzarre as fuck that he had all the evidence on him still hundreds of miles and days away considering how effective the adjuster seemed to be on the day of the attack and those that followed, but like, if he starts saying it was him and shit I don't have much of a reason to disbelieve

It could really be as simple as he planned to make a clean getaway but then realized he was famous and beloved and thought hey maybe I can say some stuff during my trial to make a bigger difference

I'm still sus about all this until further notice, but its by no means guaranteed

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most people actually are uninspiring. Most Americans do support the cops. It’s perfectly normal for someone to hate this particular CEO but lack the theory to see the larger class struggle.

You might be right but I think you’re not seeing the equal possibility that it is exactly as reported.

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

no I AM RIGHT .

stop breaking the law with your "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_guilt"

saboteur ...

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Also feds I actually think you're super cool and I bet you all fuck a lot especially Jerry Smith, who is employed in the public relations department of the FBI he looks like he has a monster dong"

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

By the way this was not written by Jerry Smith I just think he's a super cool guy and Lisa in accounting would be stupid for not going out with him.

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've been saying since yesterday that I don't believe he's the real shooter. This is all far too convenient lol and he looks fuck all like the guy(s) in the CCTV footage to me.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is it just me or does the guy in this picture have a gap between his upper two front teeth?

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kind of hard to tell from the quality/angle, but he doesn't have Luigi's thick monobrow. The chin looks different to me as well.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Some of it could be angle, but yeah chin seems longer and as if it has a sharper cut. Nose seems more rounded too.


This

Compared to

Lighting, angles, even picture fidelity can do a lot to change the structure of a face, not to mention lenses (look at your face on a phone cam compared to a camera with a lens that's more than a micrometer away from the shutter) so though I agree the chin looks off... in almost all pictures, it's not at all impossibe. The teeth seem different for me and no lens will make a tooth gap where there isn't one, but that could also just be a shadow or a weird pixel. The eyebrows too. I'd love to see the whole security cam footage of him revealing his face in that hostel. Also his nose seems different.

[–] dustbunnies@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

not trying to argue whether this is/isn't the dude, I've had questions about the eyebrows etc too, but

no lens will make a tooth gap where there isn't one

I have unfortunate personal experience to the contrary. I do not have a gap between my front teeth irl, but I have an old driver's license photo from my early 20s that makes it look like you could put two quarters between them.

it was so bad, I said I lost it and paid to do the whole process over again just to get a new picture done, I could not be taking that out to the bars with me 💀 but it was so funny that I kept it and genuinely enjoy showing it off. it's ridiculous, idk how tf the lighting made that happen, but it did 🤷

if there were any way to post it without doxxing myself, I would, because it is genuinely that hilariously bad.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Wow that's horrible, but also very funny. Now I know!

[–] MidnightPocket@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Need an in-custody picture of him smiling to really tell. And good luck getting one of those int the time period it would still be relevant.

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The nose is definitely different imo. Even in the other picture of the hostel guy the nose doesn't look exactly the same. Looking at the picture again the hostel guy seems to have much thicker eyelashes than Luigi.

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Looks like the hostel guy has a strand of hair visible above his right eye as well? That would imply he has a different haircut to Luigi

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

That would be his eyebrow

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

His nose looks distinctively the same to me. It has a somewhat unique break about 2/3 from the top that is present in all photos. Plus if you look at the hair pattern of his eyebrows against his nose, I see it in the CCTV photo too.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I see the same eyebrow pattern too, but I see the nose in CCTV photo as rounded, whereas Luigi has a slight tilt/sharper angle, but it's all just pixels and wishful thinking really. I'm not gonna look more at the italian thirst trap assassin himbo

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And how do we know the guy in this picture is The Guy? Cuz he was wearing the same coat in the same block? There are around 1400 people per block in Manhattan what are the odds of 2 of them wearing the same coat?

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah and also how many jackets does this luigi guy own?

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

look at the comment sections. not even half defend his innoncent + "Yeah random dude had random comments , what do they mean ???" x-factor music

really dissapointed in this showning..

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah I'm genuinely shocked at just how many people seem to be going along with this, even on here.