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Hello comrades. In the interest of upholding our code of conduct - specifically, rule 1 (providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all) - we felt it appropriate to make a statement regarding the lionization of Luigi Mangione, the alleged United Healthcare CEO shooter, also known as "The Adjuster."

In the day or so since the alleged shooter's identity became known to the public, the whole world has had the chance to dig though his personal social media accounts and attempt to decipher his political ideology and motives. What we have learned may shock you. He is not one of us. He is a "typical" American with largely incoherent, and in many cases reactionary politics. For the most part, what is remarkable about the man himself is that he chose to take out his anger on a genuine enemy of the proletariat, instead of an elementary school.

This is a situation where the art must be separated from the artist. We do not condemn the attack, but as a role model, Luigi Mangione falls short. We do not expect perfection from revolutionary figures either, but we expect a modicum of revolutionary discipline. We expect them not simply to identify an unpopular element of society hitler-detector , but to clearly illuminate the causes of oppression and the means by which they are overcome. When we canonize revolutionary figures, we are holding them up as an example to be followed.

This is where things come back to rule 1. Mangione has a long social media history bearing a spectrum of reactionary viewpoints, and interacting positively with many powerful reactionary figures. While some commenters have referred to this as "nothing malicious," by lionizing this man we effectively deem this behavior acceptable, or at the very least, safe to ignore. This is the type of tailism which opens the door to making a space unsafe for marginalized people.

We're going to be more strict on moderating posts which do little more than lionize the shooter. There is plenty to be said about the unfolding events, the remarkably positive public reaction, how public reactions to "propaganda of the deed" may have changed since the historical epoch of its conception (and how the strategic hazards might not have), and many other aspects of the news without canonizing this man specifically. We can still dance on the graves of our enemies and celebrate their rediscovered fear and vulnerability without the vulgar revisionism needed to pretend this man is some sort of example of Marxist or Anarchist practice.

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[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

serious plan

Not be wrecking feds?

Are we being serious or flippant, here? I'm not sassing you I just didn't know what you meant and that's not very descriptive

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Comfortable white admins, is that more descriptive?

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

jesse-wtf

Genuinely no that isn't more descriptive of what you are trying to say and where you are coming from. I thought this was a move that was called for by marginalized comrades and that the white treatbrained americans among us were upset at first, what about this move has anything to do with, or implies, the admins being "comfortable and white"?

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

What is you reasoning for the different admin response to LM, and Tetsuya Yamagami yamagami who also wasn't ideological pure and was literally a member of Japan(NATO ally)'s military, other than location and race?

[–] iie@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago

I've never seen a single hexbear unironically hero worship Tetsuya Yamagami, only ever meme about him.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The difference is the way the average user was responding to that event.

This is the original doohickey post, the OP of that post (@skinwalker) was banned for saying "Full uncritical support for the shooter, even if they are one of those weird ultra nationalist who flooded the subway with nerve gas."

The rest of the users went on to talk about Abe; celebrating his death, talking about his history and the LDP, the Moonies, etc. without them.

https://hexbear.net/post/206573?sort=Top

[–] Ivysaur@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago

go do anything else except for posting. what’s the thing. touch outside? go grass? you all love saying it