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I've been waiting until after Christmas day to make this post, but some of our communities recently have had a lot of noise and upset over someone that uses neopronouns that most people are unfamiliar with.

So I want to make this clear. A persons pronouns are to be respected. This is true when the user is using neopronouns that you're unfamiliar with. It's true even if you think someone is trolling. Pronouns are not rewards for good behaviour. They aren't only to be respected when you like the person you're interacting with, or if their pronouns "make sense" to you. Trolls, spammers, twitter users, it doesn't matter who they are, your options are to respect their pronouns, or to not engage with them.

I really want to re-iterate the importance of this. Gender diverse folk are undermined, invalidated and questioned at every step of our lives. As a community, we need to be working to undo that, not creating more of it, and that means there is no space for treating pronouns (including neopronouns) as a reward for good behaviour.

This isn't a free reign for trolls and spammers. The rules still apply. Trolling, spamming, etc will continue to be dealt with, but it's not an excuse to act as if respecting someones pronouns is optional.

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[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I've spent what feels like half an hour scrolling through comment threads to figure out what the hell happened to lead to this. Is there some kind of explainer somewhere? Is there a key thread that I missed somehow? Should I even be asking?

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 60 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There's a user called dragonfucker whose gender is apparently "dragonfucker", who insists on the neopronoun "drag", and who eagerly takes offense whenever misgendered, whether the misgendering was intentional or not. Some people understandably believe this user is a troll.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago

Except they don't eagerly take offense to being mispronouned. Most of the time, when I've seen it, they don't even say anything.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Dragon Rider, actually, not dragonfucker. And drag isn't mad that you misremembered.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 8 points 17 hours ago

Some Lemmy clients show handle instead of username, that's why some users may never have seen 'Drag Rider (drag)' at all

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't seen them take offense very often

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

How dare you call drag 'them'!!! >:(

😂😂😂 just kidding, drag doesn't act like that. Thank you for sticking up for drag.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I love for drag to have the courage and space to express dragself, so it's always heartbreaking when people are hating on drag for no reason instead of just engaging with the content of drag's comments and having meaningful discussions. Stay true to dragself and don't let others make drag change. Thank you to the instance admins for standing up for drag.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A user called drag can sometimes rub people the wrong way. Sometimes it's drag's actions. Sometimes it's the fact drag refers to dragself with pronouns using various permutations of drag.

The former is a valid reason for contention. The latter isn't.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

~~I always thought Drag was speaking in the third person. Did I misunderstand something?~~ Edit: yes, I did

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Drag does both, as demonstrated in this very thread.

[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is more of a public service announcement style of post than a deeply intentioned 'after incident response' post.

While I'm sure there have been plenty of incidents based on some of the other comments, there hasn't been some singular massive event to cause this to happen. If anything it's more of a reminder that one purpose of blahaj.zone is for inclusivity and acceptance. Excluding people because of some indirect words is not the goal.

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

Thanks for clarifying.