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I escaped the Reddit regime a little while ago. I consider myself a marxist-leninist-MZT. Vegetarian and vegan for a few years. I've a lot of thoughts on how marxism and veganism are connected. Never wrote them down. I'd like to start smth like a club for marxist vegans to develop our own proletarian theory. Most vegan theory I found is either openly bourgeois (Francione is a literal TERF) or revisionist (anti-China, anarchist, libertarian). How about fixing this?

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[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I'm sorry if I have different opinions, I get the vegetarian part, simply not eating meat, some people I knew were vegetarian, but completely vegan? Not eating eggs, drinking milk etc? How does that work I don't see how is that even possible? But I (and a lot of people I know) simply cannot live without meat.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well I do a lot of physical labor, so during a work day I eat: a bowl of oatmeal, two veggie wraps with a soy+pea protein shake, a large bowl of fried beans and rice, and then a second soy+pea protein shake before bed. No milk or eggs required.

[–] thetaT@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (61 children)

cannot live without meat? how so?

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[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's not trivial, but lots of people do it. There are substitutes if you really miss like cheese, but there's also a whole fucking world of delicious vegan cuisine. Indian is a good place to start. It can seem scary to give up a bedrock sort of comfort like a kind of food you eat, but it can actually be kind of freeing to realize that you don't actually need it. I'm not vegan, but I started to not eat meat during Lent a couple years ago and it was a pretty revealing experience. I recommend it to people.

[–] yet_another_commie@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The biggest problem is overcoming societal pressure. The second biggest is the period when you have to relearn what to eat

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[–] CarlMarks@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Those are plastic things, you can change them like any habit. The discipline we must acquire to organize effectively is already more difficult than just not eating animal products. It is even a passive act! For me there was no real difficulty whatsoever, just a period where I learned new recipes and my palate adapted.

It is also something where if you don't see value in changing the habit, you will focus on reasons to not do it. This is normal. But if you were vegan, which is an ethical orientation towards animals, you'd be more motivated to find a way to make it happen.

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