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Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community.

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Hello users of Hexbear, there have been many changes and some drama the past few months.

The recent changes we've been making have been an attempt to create a more safe and welcoming environment for many demographics that have been overlooked in the past.

For any of our comrades that have been unintentionally hurt in this process, we apologise and hope to find a solution that accommodates as many people as possible while still meeting the needs of the marginalised groups who need a space like this the most.

The intent of this post is to provide a space for all users to air grievances with regard to the site. As well as provide suggestions for specific things that could be changed to address your grievance. Comments insulting the mod team or those without a specific means to address your problem may be removed. No commenter will be sitebanned, unless it clearly breaks the code of conduct.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 41 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Mods removing threads for incorrect comm should copy and paste them with all the comments in "correct" comm, if they received enough engagement.

Sorry if that's sounds like work, don't fucking remove threads from "wrong comm" then. Your 3 seconds of "correct bucket sorting is important for my deep learning model" is collective minutes of writing comments by commenters, show that you care eh?

And have mod comment if you think nsfw is not enough of cw/cw is incorrect, how the fuck do you think i have to fix incorrect cw, if i don't know who to answer that i fixed the issue/title? I have to notice it was removed, search modlog like a nerd, see some reason with removal (one that i might agree with or might not, but be fine with fixing), and what then? Only alaskaball does it

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

We did establish an internal guideline of "if the post is more than X hours old and has over Y upvotes don't remove it"

An upcoming lemmy patch will notify users of removals and we could do better at encouraging mods to make a comment/send a dm informing a user of a CW violation when you remove a post/comment for that reason

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

meow-fiesta for the record i don't mind that much removing upvoted but not commented post, it's whatever, i mind posts with discussions (this side of locking struggle sessions or two people arguing in bad faith)

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And have mod comment if you think nsfw is not enough of cw/cw is incorrect, how the fuck do you think i have to fix incorrect cw, if i don't know who to answer that i fixed the issue/title? I have to notice it was removed, search modlog like a nerd, see some reason with removal (one that i might agree with or might not, but be fine with fixing), and what then? Only alaskaball does it

leo-point I got mentioned!

Wait was that a positive thing or a negative thing I got mentioned for? thonk-cri

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Positive, i've seen you comment to add a tag/nsfw or get removed in some posts, at least it's a clear avenue to respond to responsible for removal mod (instead of nebulous "add a tag and it will be reinstated" in modlog), and one, who likely would be online meow-melt

I don't assume mods recheck posts (and that sounds like meaningless work), but couple of times i added nsfw tag to deleted post, according to modlog, and then i don't know who to ping, and the post is not returned shrug-outta-hecks

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

thats something I should bring up with the other news mods. I think the kids do a good job but its always helpful to keep everyone on the same level

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

before I forget hey @carpoftruth@hexbear.net @Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net @context@hexbear.net @Infamousblt@hexbear.net @FALGSConaut@hexbear.net just want to make sure we're on the same page regarding the occasional report that drops in the snewze modbox that we actually drop a comment letting the poster know what's going on, what should be corrected, and giving them a point of contact to poke whenever they get around to fixing their post, maybe even letting them know there's a certain window of time to correct it before it get removed. That last part on actually removing things will be up to your discretion as usual.

I don't think we really have too much to work on besides the usual drudgery of trying to get the herd of cats to source their info and other such.

[–] Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Will do.

Joke suggestion: let’s repurpose the tracker bot to Reddit-style demand a source from top-level comments without a link and auto report since nobody else reports.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

I need to be more on top of that, I appreciate the reminder!

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yes sounds good, I've done that before

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I am definitely not doing this so thank you for the reminder. I will shape up!

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

You are honestly an exemplary moderator and admin. No bit, no joke, if "being a moderator" was a college course, studying you would be required.

[–] Aceivan@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yeah this is all very real, if a little hostile, the mod tooling on here is atrocious still and mods need to be way more consistent about communication to make up for that.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

the mod tooling on here is atrocious still

In its original implementation, the mod tooling was the outcome of a recently unemployed machinist who had never moderated a web forum or used such tooling learning Rust in two weeks and slapping something together. It is dog shit and can use a total overhaul (I am allowed to say this).

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry if that's sounds like work, don't fucking remove threads from "wrong comm" then. Your 3 seconds of "correct bucket sorting is important for my deep learning model" is collective minutes of writing comments by commenters, show that you care eh?

If mods keep on pulling this shit, the solution is to just post in multiple comms and let the mods sort it out. Imagine opening a support ticket only to have someone close the ticket because you didn't properly categorize the support ticket.

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine opening a support ticket only to have someone close the ticket because you didn't properly categorize the support ticket.

StackOverflow moment.