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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I never said better.

So you were doing some exhaustive and tiresome devil's advocate nonsense and/or are trying to dial back your ridiculously bad original take where you presented a strong centralized government response as some sort of scary nanny state that only the weak yearn for, and that you have a knee-jerk reaction about. ok

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -3 points 1 year ago

I never said a strong centralized government was bad, just that it wouldn't be tolerated in the current political framework.

You interpreted that as being bad.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I never said

You're waffling and playing sophistic games that are not unlike billdawg and your political ideology seems to come from the same source.

Checks out.

You interpreted that as being bad.

nicholson-yes

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 year ago

Or maybe you just want someone to argue with.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's rich coming from you, especially after your amerikkka-clap flag-humping session that started with this:

Or maybe you want a strongman who will protect you until they don't.

The crumbling and neglected infrastructure and decaying social institutions of Freedomland are cool and good and no worse than the evil See See Pee because something something federalism and how that's totally working out great promise guys for real guys morshupls

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -1 points 1 year ago

I was mentioning it in the context of the USA. I've been bringing up Trump as an example of a person in charge of the federal government who didn't respond to requests from states for aid. During COVID, the federal government denied assistance to states that were politically against Trump. Putting all disaster response in the hands of the federal government could cause a similar case to happen in the future.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Putting all disaster response in the hands of the federal government could cause a similar case to happen in the future.

Claiming that the federal/central government should by default rely, especially in the context of the crumbling and eroding infrastructural and social conditions of the United States, on alienated and isolated first responses from counties or townships or whatever is left in impoverished parts of the country is idealistic nonsense that ignores the actual conditions of those places.

And Maui isn't even nearly one of the most impoverished areas and look how badly that went.

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