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Isn't New Zealand currently going through their own slide to the right? The Māori only represent like ~17% of the population over there. New Zealand just elected a conservative coalition.
Seems like you're just moving from one place you (presumably) don't agree with to a new place that also just signed up for shit you probably aren't going to agree with.
I mean it looks beautiful but if your travel is for political reasons I fear you're just heading to a different slice of the same.
Have a safe flight.
The NZ election was unfortunately a year too early.
Maori only represent 17% of the population however because of our founding document they have a permanent place in government and will always be heavily involved in governance.
Our country elected the national party which is right after two terms of our left wing government. Its expected since our elections always bounce between left and right. The current right wing government is stupid but nothing compared to trump. The controversy comes mostly from their coalition partners bills Act who are led by a complete moron.
Labour is going to win next election because national has fucked up almost every area they campaigned on.
It’s nowhere near as bad here in NZ
Oh absolutely not. It's a much smaller population and being an island it's got a figurative and literal buffer to the rest of the world.
I have always loved New Zealand. It's like the cooler uncle of Australia minus all the spiders the size of my head.
And it's just a beautiful place. Makes me wanna go frolicking in the mountains with an elf, dwarf and old white guy lol
Just because an island has a smaller population doesn't make it any more or less predisposed to egalitarianism, nor do large populations have to be predisposed to authoritarianism.
....I never said either of those things?
"It’s a much smaller population" literally your second sentence, or do you not comprehend your own writing? Why is their smaller population relevant?
Please stop assuming that a) politics are the same as your country, and b) you haven't been fed a load of "see, everywhere is right wing now?" propaganda
I never said the politics were the same as my country.
And many countries are currently in the middle of or already have elected right wing leaders. Not really propaganda when it's verifiably a fact.
The world’s billionaires are heading back to NZ
Enjoy paradise while it lasts.
These billionaires aren't going to pillage NZ.
Re NZ politics - Yes and no.
The currect situation is due to some very specific circumstances thst emerged in the chaos of the last 10 years.
The centre left Labour Party & PM were hugely popular during covid & won an unheard of majority (normally our electoral system requires a coalition). A swing back to the centre-right was inevitable.
The centre right National party, usually our most popular party, had their leadership retire & endured years of in-fighting that made them unelectable
Because of this, they've bled a lot of voters to the "libertarian" & "centrist" parties (ACT & NZ First)
Also because of this, the current National Party leader is rather inexperienced & has given up some things in the coalition agreements that are more extreme than the public likes leading to record breaking protests.
The "centrist" party leader (Winston Peters) is a whole thing that I can't neatly summarize, but imagine a political party designed to cater exclusively to the oldest & dumbest 5% of voters run by that Monorail guy from The Simpsons
In summary, less a slide right & more a correction back to status quo + a few unpopular chaos agents
I cant neatly summarise him either, but I have disliked him immensely since he verbally abused myself and some other students at Waikato back in '93
I would characterize it differently.
I could go on but, the politics here is just as complex as anywhere else. Overall we have shifted right, further than we traditionally have but not too much further.
The current government has made some truly stupid calls, and has scored a lot of own goals. Their popularity is very low this early in a parliamentary term. They have been in for a little more than a year; if things keep going the way they are, they may be the first one term government we have had in a long time. Our term of 3 years, is short, so most governments get more than one term to show what they are made of.
Afaik the shorter version of this is: real estate crooks from the Queenstown area took over politics.
You make some good points, my comment was originally 3x longer at first but I cut it down in the interest of not rehashing 185 years of history
I was thinking of going into far more detail.....but the comment was already getting long.
As a kiwi that left for the US, things are getting a bit strange in New Zealand. So many folks are becoming openly racist vs. what I see in the states. Granted, I don't live in the south, but still... I was shocked when I went back to visit at the rhetoric being used.
NZ has always had a racist underbelly, they have become more emboldened since trump 1.... with trump 2 I fear it will get worse.
For anyone is interested in NZ politics, I've been enjoying BHN
Well that's.... Good to hear? Certainly sounds better than whatever shit show the US currently has kicking off.
Fascism. The shit show in the US is called fascism. Help.
No one is coming to help. We are on our own.
SocialistRA.org
That's the mindset of how Yugoslav Partisans kicked out the Nazis and beat the Ustaca. But that wasn't a piece of cake.
I'm a bit more optimistic. This is just the pendulum swinging back as it always does. Don't worry it'll probably swing the other way in 4 years most likely.
Much of the world is sliding to the right. And much of it is not sliding nearly as far or as fast as the USA.
America's always cranking things up to 11, including fascism.
And then exporting our culture, so, strap in everybody
Rest of world: "America sucks! Bunch of fascists!"
votes for far-right candidates in their countries
Basically the global political situation back in the '30s.
It's almost like capitalism isn't the best way to organize civilization.
Marx has been proven right about that, at least.
I'm not gonna pretend I know the exact details of how much of a slide and to what severity each countries election is going. I was nearly saying that it seems global we are in the middle of a shift right is all.
but it's a slice of heaven
Hilarious that I, in NZ, can't see this!
Same...
I thought it was your national anthem?
No that would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5kmSgCPpXw
Conservative parties have always been part of liberal democracies. They could sometimes govern responsibly.
But the Republican party under Trump is something completely different. Trump, Musk and friends are there for state capture. You cannot compare them to New Zealand's conservatives