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Yes, keep blaming the voters and not the democratic party and candidate who repeatedly refused to give them a reason to vote for them. Blaming the voters will definitely win us the next election.
If stopping fascism isn't enough of a reason for you to vote Dems, that's a you problem and not a them problem.
If stopping fascism wasn't enough of a reason for Biden and Kamala to stop supporting a genocide...
Maybe they weren't the right candidates?
I don't get why so many people think voters always have to adapt their values to an existing politician, rather than getting a politician who agrees with voters....
Like, how fucking evil would someone have to be to risk trump taking over America rather than not supporting a genocide?
Take Biden and Kamala's name off it, and just how the fuck can someone say that hypothetical person would be a good president?
You still think there will be a legitimate next election. Amazing.
That still leads to the question of what's the point of blaming voters for the democratic party's failure.
Do you think it might be possible that more than one party can be blamed for Trump getting into power and that things aren't so simple that you can point to the Democrats and say it's 100% their fault and absolutely no one else's?
For example, the people who repeatedly said not to vote for Harris? Do you think maybe they have a tiny bit of culpability? Or is this a "just because we told people not to vote for Harris doesn't mean they shouldn't have voted for Harris, this has nothing to do with us" sort of thing?
I want the democratic party to change so it makes more sense to put my efforts into trying to change them rather than fruitlessly smashing my head into a wall over that which cannot be changed.
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said. I didn't even ask what you wanted.
How quaint, you think there's going to be a next free and fair election at this point.
What do you mean "next"?
America has never had free and fair elections.
As evidenced by the cases of Bush v. Gore, Wilding et. al. v. DNC Services d/b/a DNC and Deborah “Debbie” Wasserman Schultz, and the lack of a viable anti-genocide candidate during last year's election.
By not voting for genocide, they cost us the election! /s
Fuck that. No more being conciliatory, non-voters need to be ashamed of themselves. Shame has its place. Every non-voter knew about Project 2025, and then made the clear-eyed, full-chested decision to be complicit with every single consequence of a Trump victory. They need to be humbled, to feel deep shame, to be wracked with literally physically painful guilt, and to change their ways. If you're a non-voter you can work your fucking ass off for absolution, throw 110% into volunteering and activism to undo some of the mischief and horror Trump is working on vulnerable people, or you can go straight to Hell. No mercy for collaborators or quislings.
I think you're letting conversations online distort your understanding of the actual public.
Most people were not aware Biden had dropped out. Hell, most people who didn't vote have been chronically checked out -- they decided a long long time ago that it either didn't matter or wasn't worth the effort. Most people have no clue what Project 2025 is. That's something only news junkies know about.
They had every opportunity, ignorance is a choice.
that's not really a successful attitude for activating disinterested voters
like, it's just not a realistic approach
Disinterested voters ultimately need to pull their heads out of their asses one way or another. We've been Mister Nice Guy with people who refuse to question the legitimacy of their feelings, and did it produce results? Care to take a guess?
It's time for the stick. When you tell someone they're acting like an asshole; when you tell them they royally fucked up, scorn their idiotic motivations, and then demand that they shape up; you at least treat them like an equal, a free individual capable of being selfish and stupid. Putting them on the level of children by coaxing and cajoling and borderline tricking them into insincere imitations of empathy, while stroking their hair and plying them with praise, is debasing. And it doesn't work.
I'm not saying we need to sing them sweet nothings.
The democrats, as they stand, don't offer much beyond maintaining the status quo. You can sing people's praises or chastise them, but if you're not offering any actual material improvements, then it doesn't really matter what you say.