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I have one outstanding order that is already out for delivery. Once I get that, I'm closing my amazon account. I'm done. Buy nothing. Vote with your wallet. Edit: account is closed. get bent Bozos.

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[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Brooooo, it's not like any of us were thrilled with Kamala either. But in comparison to Trump I was excited for her.

Trust me, we all get that both options weren't optimal, but we don't get an optimal option. We get 2 options, and one is usually better than the other. If we keep picking the better one, over time things improve.

People like you tend to protest by not voting at all, or voting third party (which is essentially the same under our current structure). If we had compulsory voting, I highly doubt Trump would have won.

[–] r3g3n3x@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The problem is it’s not a choice between good and better, it’s a choice between bad and worse. We’re hitting the point where the lesser of two evils choices are hitting critical mass.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Just bad is still lesser evil. Exactly how the fuck are we supposed to do better than that in an FTTP system? And to be quite frank, Im trying to avoid genocide at home

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Aside from not taking a firm stance on Israel, I didn't have any huge problems with Kamala. I figured she was just holding back on criticism since AIPAC has the power to essentially end careers. That's probably too optimistic.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Figured", "probably" - these are not the levels of certainty you should have on your conclusions regarding a genocide.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Considering I was absolutely certain trump would make it worse, I was okay with mild uncertainty.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Let me rephrase it. You are not meeting the standards of research required to effectively participate in a democracy.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Actually based take.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lawl, you don't know me, don't pretend to.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

There's enough to tell.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Trust me, we all get that both options weren’t optimal, but we don’t get an optimal option. We get 2 options, and one is usually better than the other. If we keep picking the better one, over time things improve.

People like you tend to protest by not voting at all, or voting third party (which is essentially the same under our current structure). If we had compulsory voting, I highly doubt Trump would have won.

No single drop of water blames itself for the flood. There are 240 million eligible voters, who all have the choice, collectively and individually, to vote for ANYONE. Somehow you are all completely incapable of blaming the entire group for its continual decisions to vote for war criminals and genociders. Rather, you completely invert the blame onto those who DON'T vote for those people. Literally, you ignore the blame for the only people actually responsible, and instead blame the only people NOT responsible. Given the massive efforts to brainwash the public regarding this political system, it's nearly impossible to not see this as a product of brainwashing as well, because this self-defeating pattern completely neuters any attempt for real political change.

By the way, the Senate just voted 99-0 to confirm Marco Rubio. Including Bernie Sanders, Van Hollen, Booker, Warren, every Democrat. https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00008.htm Explain that to me once you get done explaining how the Democrats are really the underdog opposition.

Trust me, we all get that both options weren’t optimal, but we don’t get an optimal option. We get 2 options, and one is usually better than the other. If we keep picking the better one, over time things improve.

Also, no, they fucking don't. The system presenting you with these manufactured options continually clamps down its chokehold on the world as you continue on in your delusion of political choice. It absolutely boggles my fucking mind how after a year and a half of open genocide you think there's some kind of autonomy between the Democrats and Republicans.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Do you not understand how FTTP works? Theres too many liberals who genuinely want empire lite, trying to make an actual progressive happen outside the party would just split the left-of-trump vote

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

There is no solution for a population voting incorrectly than for them to correct their behavior. You have no point.