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Really confused by the existence of a person who apparently hates "Marxist apologia", but has read Blackshirts and Reds.
Has read and recommends Blackshirts and Reds, no less. "Well, this one piece of Marxist analysis I read was thoughtful, thorough, and worth reading (despite being Marxist). But obviously the rest of it must still be terrible"
this is a person on the verge of tankiedom. We've all been there. Somewhere between a Dem Soc and a Left Com and an Anarchist and a commie, a generic "leftist". Have to still pay lip service to not being "authoritarian" and all that
Copying and pasting my other comment:
Based on what they told me yesterday, they have started reading it, maybe a chapter or two in. Throughout my interactions with them over the last year or so, I have steadily gotten them to read Elementary Principles of Philosophy, "Tankies," and now finally they have started Blackshirts and Reds.
Overall, they are your typical anti-communist "progressive liberal," but in the last month or so have been pushing back against anti-Communism. This is genuinely a massive step for them IMO.
You have the patience of a saint, comrade
I could literally never do what you do without it killing me
I take frequent breaks, haha. Probably will this weekend especially. But thanks for the kind words!
Holy shit the amount of work you must've put in to make this one lemmitor read something other than harry potter. You deserve the medal of honor.
I think that honor goes to them, I lost patience more than a few times when they were especially reactionary, but they genuinely seem to be a true believer in the "marketplace of ideas" kinda thing so they ended up taking my advice anyways. I think if they do end up a comrade, they will have been one of the most effort-requiring converts I've done, but ultimately I think it's more a virtue of being a rare "true believer" that actually followed through enough for the shell to crack.
Obviously not condoning their reactionary views, they have plenty of brainworks to deworm but the process isn't hopeless at all IMO.
Very cool of you to keep engaging with them! I've met one of those types myself, but that was irl so much easier. I don't know if it's the users or the format but people are much more defensive online.
Oooh you just made me remember that one person who got dog piled on for their "to the last Ukrainian" stance, who then came to hexbear to apologise. That was in early federation.
Edit: found it! https://hexbear.net/post/3707945
Yea, I think there's genuine hope, and since the fediverse is so small the more solidified the left the better it is when people come in and visit for conversion.
You made me look thru their comments and this is like the third one https://lemmy.ml/post/25405794/16429720
They might be doing some work but so are you. Seriously applaud your patience.
Thanks, I appreciate it!
give it up for Comrade Cowbee that's fantastic, great work
Thank you, you're too kind
amazing work, before i read this I was even prepared to just say "shit, I'll take it" but the fact that it's actually progress from concerted effort is truly awesome and you deserve all the praise
Thank you so much!
What is βtankiesβ?
It's a Red Sails article.
Redsails article of that name
Based on what they told me yesterday, they have started reading it, maybe a chapter or two in. Throughout my interactions with them over the last year or so, I have steadily gotten them to read Elementary Principles of Philosophy, "Tankies," and now finally they have started Blackshirts and Reds.
Overall, they are your typical anti-communist "progressive liberal," but in the last month or so have been pushing back against anti-Communism. This is genuinely a massive step for them IMO.
Quick hit them with the transgender ray, coup de grace, coup de grace!
My power level isn't high enough, lol
OK, that explains it, at least some libs are willing to learn.
I think most of us were libs at one point, just means we have to deal with that as a challenge to grow.
Nuh uh not me i have never had any reactionary viewpoints I am the one true leftist when jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" he was talking about me (and misgendering me, typical orthodox baptist evangelical catholic protestant, but I forgive him)
Good to hear but lmao very stereotypic "type of guy" behaviour to recommend a book they've only just learned about themselves
I think they've been reading it for a few weeks or whatnot but I only found out a day ago, but they are personally busy right now, which is fair.
if they at least started reading it enough to get a couple chapters in, then a recommendation is valid I think in casual conversation