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As more mainstream libs are discovering Lemmy, we're seeing a pattern of complaints that opinions outside the ones they deem acceptable are allowed on the platform. We've even seen instances defederating because their userbase does not wish to be exposed to these views.

Interestingly, these are the same people who level censorship and control of free speech as their main critique of communists. What we're seeing is that these people absolutely don't care about free speech. They understand the necessity of censorship and actively advocate censoring opinions that they find dangerous. Yet, when societies based on values different from their own use these same tools they screech about authoritarianism.

Turns out it's not authoritarianism libs hate, but having their own views censored. What actually offends them about places like China is that it's their ideology that's being suppressed there.

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[-] hissing_serpents@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

yeah that sounds pretty different from the sorts of situations i'm talking about, it makes a lot of sense to be cynical over it though. i think seasoned anarchists, even if they fully mean well, can turn orgs not explicitly laid out like that into something really unpleasant. there's a kind of normative behavior that comes out of consensus based organizing that's very focused on raising basically every single concern you might have and avoiding keeping quiet for the sake of getting along that is pretty essential for consensus to work as intended but can end up pretty obnoxious outside of that context. maybe the only way out is just not going along anymore if enough ppl are tired of it even if it'll likely be unpleasant.

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