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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

They didn’t need all Muslim voters.

They needed “enough” Muslim voters. They peeled some off. And some voters on the economy and some voters on other issues.

The glaring issue with Palestine is that they were basically silent on it. Harris needed some daylight with Biden, but she chose the VP hat over her candidate hat and kept her mouth shut. (Or she doesn’t disagree with biden’s response. Which would also be problematic…)

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I was so happy when she took over because she'd have the freedom to distance herself from Biden on the issues that were killing him (apart from the obvious senility). Instead she just kept trying to make everyone knew she approved of everything he did. What a terrible terrible mistake.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

yeah, I'm with you on that.

She could have been respectful. "as VP it's my job to stand by my president, and I will continue to do that- as VP. but as a candidate? I gotta say here's how I will be doing things differently.... "

And lets just be completely honest with Biden on gaza- He spent most of that time giving Netanyahu a blow job even though Netty was fucking him over by supporting trump.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Which apart from the moral issues, really made it seem like he was not prepared to handle our current political situation. Netanyahu was lying to him over and over, clearly wanting to support his fellow far-right candidate, and Biden just blithely pretended they were the best of allies, never wanting to give any offense or entertain the thought that an Israeli leader might have his own agenda separate from the both us and the Israeli people.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

So, like I'm going to preface this with saying its open secrets, so these are only reported numbers. (that list is the top 20 from 1990 to 2024, and is specifically members of congress, so I'm not sure if it includes donations during his presidential campaigns.)

but like. As a member of congress, Biden received more money from pro-israel groups than any other candidate. To the tune of 4+ million. His loyalty was bought. it was bought a while ago.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

Holy shit, almost double the next person. Dude is in the twilight of his career, he could have told them to fuck off with little consequences at this point.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Which apart from the moral issues, really made it seem like he was not prepared to handle our current political situation. Netanyahu was lying to him over and over, clearly wanting to support his fellow far-right candidate, and Biden just blithely pretended they were the best of allies,

Pretended? They were and remain the best of allies. US democracy was secondary to whatever Netanyahu wanted.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Allies go both ways. Netanyahu was never looking out for the interests of Joe Biden or even the wider United States.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They had an interest in common: both of them wanted Biden to do whatever Netanyahu wanted.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Instead she just kept trying to make everyone knew she approved of everything he did.

And the refrain from the pro-genocide center was "she can't undermine him! WhAt Do YoU eXpEcT hEr tO dO?!" But they were silent when she moved to his right.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They didn’t need all Muslim voters.

They certainly acted like they wanted zero of them.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Oh yeah.

the entire attitude was "Well, you're not gonna go vote for trump, so, lets go after people who will never vote for me, instead."

Which, I seem to recall trying to explain to Dems that this election was going to come down to who lost more of their base.... I hate being right.