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Okay, this is not an iPhone vs Android Phone debate. I respect your right to choose whichever platform that you want.


I mean, iPhone seems so antithetical with the idea of freedom. You have to connect it to a server to even use it, all apps have to go through a centralized server, no option to install whatever apps you want, which means, you literally cannot have any third-party apps without an online account.

Most of my fellow americans seems to love the idea of freedom so much, yet just buy into a closed ecosystem with no freedom? 🤔

Like almost 60% of Americans use iPhone, kinda weird to preach freedom when you cant even have an app without a corporation's approval. If it were any other country, I wouldn't find it weird, but for a country that's obsessed with the idea of freedom (so much so that they disobeyed mask mandates), it's really weird to be using a device with zero freedom.

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[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Honestly I didn’t get an iPhone until 2021 or so and all of my android phones before then ran slow in a year or so. That never happened with my iPhones. Having recently gotten into privacy and selfhosting I have considered a pixel with graphene but don’t wanna waste money.

Worth noting I don’t use iCloud or any of those Apple related services.

I know my partner thinks the same way. My family all has them recently too. Idk why though. We mostly had Samsung before then LG earlier.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sure this is part of it. All my phones before iPhone sucked. All but one person I know with Android, their phones suck(the downside of cheap phones being available). While I didn’t try every model, and I’m sure they’ve gotten better, why would I abandon something that has worked well, for something where my only experience is negative.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

Thanks for adding! I feel the same way. I can’t spend $1000 plus on something that most of my life has failed after a year or two.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

all of my Linux phones before then ran slow in a year or so. That never happened with my iPhones

Linux isn't really optimized for phones so they are going to be terrible.

And since Apple doesn't really sell budget phones, iPhones are always gonna be fast, so is a flagship Android phone. Its the flagship aspect that makes a phone fast, not the OS.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I mistyped, I meant android. And the Samsung and LG phones were not budget sadly.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago

Linux isn’t really optimized for phones so they are going to be terrible.

Android is technically Linux, which may or may not be what they're referring to.

There's basically almost zero Linux phones that actually function as a "phone" in any daily-driver capacity. They're all still basicaly developing devices unless you're referring to Android as a variant of Linux.

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

A few things to comment on.

| I didn’t get an iPhone until 2021 or so and all of my android phones before then ran slow in a year or so.

Like your computer, smartphones slow down when you have a lot of things running/idling in the background. They also slow down with bloatware. Cleaning your phone's memory every so often is a smart practice to incorporate into your ownership of the device. CCleaner is the one I download every so often to do a scan and clean what I can. There's bound to be a better app option, but that's the one I know about and have used before.

And just so we're on the same page, I bought a refurbished Pixel 2 back in early 2020 and it's been running fine for me. Haven't noticed any issues with operations except for the screen and the battery not holding its charge as long as it once did. But to be fair, my screen has a few hairpin cracks in it from dropping it on accident a couple of times. And the battery hold on any smartphone degrades with age and usage.

| That never happened with my iPhones.

You're either super lucky or you're the kind of person that gets a new smartphone every year or so; for some reason or another.

As I mentioned above, smartphones naturally and unnaturally get slower as they age. But let's not forget that planned obsolescence is very much being used across the board.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 14 minutes ago

I’m actually mixing up my years. My first iPhone was 2017 until 2020 or 2021. 4-5 years. Only switched because I broke the camera.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 15 minutes ago

I use my phones until they break or get too slow. Androids always got too slow for me. Resetting to factory default didn’t solve this so I don’t think it’s bloat.