this post was submitted on 15 Mar 2025
782 points (99.5% liked)
Europe
4401 readers
2444 users here now
News and information from Europe ๐ช๐บ
(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)
Rules (2024-08-30)
- This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
- No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
- Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
- No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism.
- Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
- If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
- Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in !yurop@lemm.ee. (They're cool, you should subscribe there too!)
- Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
- No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)
(This list may get expanded when necessary.)
We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.
If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.
If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the mods: @federalreverse@feddit.org, @poVoq@slrpnk.net, or @anzo@programming.dev.
founded 8 months ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I feel like we are all on the same side here? Perhaps not
I think so, but look at the protests in Serbia (or south Korea recently, or France every other month since the invention of the baguette), or basically any other country... and look at the pictures of protests in the US. The difference is remarkable.
Non Americans only viewing American politics from the lens of a democracy that cares about what the people say or think is surprising ignorant.
Sorry Americans don't want to suicide by cop or make their families homeless to make your feel better. Californians can't just take a week off work to trek to the capital to hold up a meaningless sign so you feel a little better. If our government was ever worried about a protest everyone would leave in a bodybag or to a black site. There is no chance of it accomplishing anything and your sheer ignorance of American geography is ironically very American.
And yet, look at any major city after a sports team win. The harsh truth is the protest turnout here in the states is pathetic. It's low to the point of being embarrassing. It's so low, that right wingers can use it as evidence of support for Trump; because clearly, if people were actually upset, there would be more than just a handful of people showing up and peacefully standing around.
Again, look at the streets after a sports team wins a game. Don't tell me people can't show up. Don't tell me people can't do more than hold signs. They do it all the fucking time because their group of guys moved a ball better than another group of guys.
The fact is, Americans don't protest because we've mostly become disillusioned and have given up. There hasn't been a single protest that accomplished anything since the Occupy Wall Street movement, and all that accomplished was getting media companies to circle the wagons and ensure they never, ever talk about class war again.
Any major city after sports win? I wasn't aware the whole US was Philadelphia. You literally only see what happens after major events where there's already a fuck ton of people not from that city ready to leave the stadium with nothing better going on. What an awful comparison.
Yes, any major city. You think people only fill the streets in Philly? Look at literally any city after they have a major football or baseball win. Streets are packed. There's not always violence, but good luck trying to drive through downtown that evening. And guess what? The people filling the streets AREN'T just from the stadium. People pour out of their homes, bars, EVERYWHERE. Using your Philly example, look at this crowd. You think those are all just people from the stadium? That was a Sunday night. It was cold out, those people had jobs they had to be at the next day, but it didn't matter because they felt it was "important" to be out there. And that's just the spur of the moment post-game celebration. The scheduled parade that Friday had over a million people show up. Over a million.
Now look at any picture or video from the recent "protests" and tell me it's not pathetic in comparison. And what happened in Philly is not the exception. Similar turnouts happen in any major US city following a Super Bowl win, most cities following a World Series win, and some cities following a Stanley Cup win. Its so expected, cops will pre-section off areas of the cities because they know people are going to be out on the streets not giving a fuck.
So yes, when the protests can't even muster up even 1% of the crowds that naturally occur after a fucking ball game, it can be safely called a depressingly low turnout.
Oh blow it out your ass.
I'm so sick of sanctimonious Europeans condescending on situations they have little understanding over. Sorry I'm not going to die bum rushing the oval office and leave my son homeless and hungry to make some ignorant European feel better.
Fuck you. You've all been cheering on my suffering while I worked to fix this place. Fuck you guys. Fuck the Fascists. This is between you two now. Neither of you were ever on my side. I'm never lifting my finger for a European/Canadian again. You assholes can handle it yourself. I wish the Jews you guys committed a genocide against had just protested a bit harder, huh?
Buddy, I am American. This shit is pathetic. I'm tired of pretending that less than 1000 people standing on a street corner is a good protest. The turnout has been embarrassingly bad, and the internet's take that it's because working Americans don't want to risk their jobs completely discounts the feeling of utter defeat many are feeling. There is just no motivation to protest anymore, it's been shown to be as ineffective as calling or writing to your senator. You know they aren't going to see it, and if you receive anything back, it will be a canned, generic response that doesn't even acknowledge your message.
I'm not upset with people for not turning out. I fully understand why they don't. I just wish we'd stop pretending these protests are the start of some new movement, when all signs point to them being the last gasps of a dying resistance. Think that's too doom and gloom? Well, unfortunately, that is our reality.
The protests are pointless. 100% of every protest since the orange guy took office has been nothing more than slactivism.
We need a leader to rally behind, but the Dems are bending the knee.
I'm also done with the Euro trash that keeps shitting on me while I'm trying to fix the issues. I'm not doing this for them. When this is over I am absolutely done with any amount of "The West" that isn't my family or my neighbors.
I didn't need backup after 9/11. The invasion was illegal and no one should have taken part. Now that I need help for the first time from my friends I'm getting knives in the back instead. I don't care what the US has done to you. I don't want to be here either. I've worked my whole life to flip the districts by me, and I did it successfully. After 17 years of work we flipped it purple and then blue. I canvassed. I volunteer. I was a fucking Paige when I was a kid. And some mouth breathing Welshman wants to complain that I haven't done enough. Fuck them. I had guns pointed at me when we protested the war in the 2000s. There are few people that have done more than me and a fistful of volunteers to flip this area.
I am done after all this though. I'll care about my family and my immediate community. Europe can get fucked. Canada can get fucked. Democrats can get fucked. Republicans can get fucked. You all deserve each other. I've seen enough people wishing death or misfortune on my children because of something a leader of a country I have no control over said something mean to them. Civility is dead. I'm done.
So you hear "show up to protest" and you think "violently attack the white house"?
Again, look at the pictures. You have 100 people standing like they're social distancing on a small portion of a square versus whole city blocks jam packed of people shoulder to shoulder. I'm sure Portland of San Francisco have more than 100 people, even more than 100 non-Republicans.
There's more than 100 people at those protests. I'm not even going to dignify your bullshit with a full response.
Definitely under a thousand. Look at the one in New York City. Look at the one in Belgrade.
New York City has a larger population not than Belgrade, but the whole fucking country of Serbia. The metro area of NYC has more than TRIPLE the population of Serbia.
Americans just don't care (best case) or support (worst case) what's happening.
You guys are worse at Geography than Americans. You're either a bad actor or shamelessly ignorant.
8 million is bigger than 6 million.
Do I really need to explain what geography is to you guys? So much for cheaper education making you guys smarter.
NYC is smaller than Serbia.
You Americans are really bad at geography, huh?
And it would still take longer to walk from one end of New York to the other than it would to walk from one end of Serbia to the other.
It's like you guys don't even understand what geography is.
This comment is peak America. Saving it.
Just look at the stadiums on Sundays. Full to capacity in every major city. Broadcast live for everyone to see. Forget about your lives we give you modern gladiators. Now rejoice and pay us money!
There were more people at the protests you all are bitching about than "the stadium" on Sunday. Lol. You will complain about anything to make yourself feel bigger.
Those are great excuses. Enjoy trump.
Lol. Sounds like you'll be enjoying him more.
For comedic value he's not bad, specially knowing he won't take away my Healthcare or my rights.
Don't ever let anyone take it from you.