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[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What are they protesting in Italy? Ferrari's shit strategy in the AUS GP? (jk)

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

But also seriously what are they protesting, haven't heard shit about this in the UK and everyone assuming I already know is not helping.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 16 hours ago

It might be shit, but at least they did it with both cars. Wait...

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The estimates for the Belgrade protest go as far as 800k participants.

Serbia has a population of 6.6 million.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

800k participants.

A little background info on number of the 1st picture: According to the comments of the Serbian Pic I stole:

-The initial numbers of participants were extremely underrereported (100 K) by Reuters.

-The whole city seemed packed according to witnesses. so all the streets and parks were full with people ( as seen on drone images), he reckoned to add the cities population of 1.5 M to the tally.

-Others said that the other ( smaller) cities & towns seemed empty.

-Therefore, he guesstimated: 1.6 M and counting..

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

he reckoned to add the cities population of 1.5 M to the tally.

That would mean 90% of Belgrade was in the streets that day. As intense the popular support of the protests is, that number is surely a strech. 800k is already quite mind-boggling by the standards of the country... actually, by the standards of any country.

Edit: "The number of protesters present in Belgrade at the protest is disputed: the official government figure provided by MUP was 107,000, an analysis by the Archive of Public Meetings found there were between 275,000 and 325,000 present "with the possibility that the number was even higher,"[499] and Božo Prelević [sr], the former MUP minister, estimated there were at least half a million protesters.[500]" (Wikipedia)

The Reuters number was simply taken from the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MUP), which obviously preferred to keep the number low.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Agreed.

It's at least a very creative stretch from his part to account for his numbers, I could appreciate that. Therefore I found it necessary to shed some light on it, after I saw your input.

And whatever the exact turnout was, it was an incredible inspirational event. Feel bad for the ppl though. About the horrible acts of violence by the Gvment and the use of Sonic booms and such.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It seems like every time that I read Serbia's population number, it's less than the last time. 30 years of population decline must suck for a society.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, it will hurt in the medium term because of the ratio of economically active ones, but overpopulation is bad in the long term.

Czech Republic has been compensating low birth rates with immigration. Maybe the factors that cause few people to migrate to Serbia are larger contributors to the "suck" you've been talking about.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

It is not just the dependency ratio. When your population declines enough, you end up having trouble maintaining all sorts of infrastructure. That is especially bad in rural regions. If your population density falls, that means fewer people have to pay to maintain basically the same length of roads, electricity grid, water system and so forth. Fewer customers leads to shops and restaurants closing. With fewer young people, schools will close making even more young people leave, as it makes raising children that much more difficult. So larger villages and small towns tend to do somewhat fine, but villages end up with pretty much no young people and just die. Even worse with an overall population decline the biggest problems of cities, namely the high cost of housing becomes less of a problem.

It really is not just the dependency ratio, which is a problem. In fact that one is often stable, as old people die.

[–] MemmingenFan923@feddit.org 24 points 1 day ago

I am proud of my European brothers and sisters. πŸ’ͺ

[–] FIbynight@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

Adding this in case it’s helpful:

Defending against LRAD:
https://youtu.be/CXKTBQBugIA

Defending against microwave: https://youtu.be/Lg_aUOSLuRo

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 79 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Where's the picture of the protests in America?

...Oh yea...

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 222 points 1 day ago (14 children)

They are being suppressed in media coverage, but there are people protesting. Media coverage paints a false picture that no one in the US is fighting back

Here's one from today with 1000 people in Boise, Idaho

Here's a super incomplete timeline with just a handful of the nationwide protests. I'm missing a lot, I'm just showing your the photos I had from recent memory


8 days ago there were national protest for science funding cuts. Here's the main one in DC


11 days ago there were nationwide protests in all 50 US state capitols + DC + Many cities within those states. This was part of the 50501 movement

Portland, Oregon

Monroe, Wisconsin

San Fransisco, California

Albany, New York

Raleigh, North Carolina

Richmond, Virginia

Austin, Texas

Protests Outside Fox News in New York City


16 days ago there were large protest in the Iowa Statehouse


19 days ago, a protest in Cherry Hill, New Jersy outside Tesla Showroom as part of a nationwide movement protesting Telsas. There have been tons more than just this one and these happen basically every day


21 days ago, large protests in DC for Ukraine aid


And so on. There's a lot more going on than just this

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 24 points 19 hours ago

The revolution will not be televised.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 22 hours ago

Thank you for posting this. I'm so sick of ignorant people outside my country (US) spouting nonsense about nothing happening here.

These people are almost as bad as the US conservatives when it comes to believing only what they see on their news.

Actual bravo.

If we had shitty rewards, I'd give you a Lemmy Latinum.

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[–] techclothes@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Being censored.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (26 children)

One thing to keep in mind is how geographically huge the US is comparatively and it makes it a lot harder to organize massive protests. Serbia is about the size of Wisconsin which is a relatively medium size state. Add that into the fact that the US is a very car dependent country where some people live 2 - 3 hours away from their capital or even a city. I'm not using this as an excuse, just a possible reason why ours in the US aren't big yet. I went to a couple in my state and I was extremely happy with everyone there but also extremely disappointed with the turnout. And I had to drive an hour and a half just to get there. I can't imagine how difficult it is for others in the bigger states.

It could be a lot of cope on my end, but I can't just assume everyone is just giving up. The last thing the US needs right now is apathy.

[–] captain_unicode@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Serbia also only has about 20% more inhabitants than Wisconsin. πŸ™‚

[–] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I feel this is a lack oft creativity. Protests need to be peaceful, but disruptive. In a car based society, protest by car? If 5,000,000 cars "meet up" in any given metropolitan area, that areas productivity goes to zero, those in power won't even have any recourse, there aren't enough police/towtrucks to counter this, and if so it would take days or weeks. Only coordinated driving and parking/traffic jam required.

Effective protest should instill fear in those in power - the message is, with the sheer number of people right outside your building, could easily crush you if they so choose. A few guards can not offer protection in this case. The idea is, with this realization, that violence is not a good escalation, as in the end the powerful few will never come out on top.

This only works if the powerful few actually believe the masses will go as far as needed to effect the demanded change.

From outside, it appears the US protests favor comfort over conflict, thus are viewed as lacking credibility and therefore, pose no danger to the power class. As long as the individual prioritizes their selves before acting as a collective, including taking the risk of collective punishment, the protest remains unbelievable, therefore ineffective and easily ignored.

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Serbia has like a quarter population of NYC.

I don't know why there aren't any mass protests in the US, but that ain't it.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 31 points 1 day ago

One thing to keep in mind is that this never seemed to have been an issue during the WoT or 1% protests.

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[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 22 hours ago

Better to simply call them "the states", because unity evaporated a while ago.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

As a Canadian, No I definitely mean 'murica.

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[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Solidarity wirh the people against corruption and for democracy.

Context: see links below and other Ops. Pics stolen and made a 'collage' in the same order as the title.

-Serbia

-Hungary

-Romania

-Italy

EDIT; link to most recent Romanian (pro Europe) protest, instead of older one

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Could you please also link something that gives context here? Thanks!

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