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I wish that was true, but in 2016, Bernie's loss was not due to DNC fuckery; while in 2020, when it arguably was, Trumpism had already taken root. And as Corbyn in the same period showed, even populist left-wing leadership does not guarantee left-wing electoral victory.
Our problems are much deeper rooted, unfortunately.
Bullshit. If the DNC had not been in the bag for Hillary in 2016, it would have been an entirely different primary. Her whole campaign was based on her "electability" and how dangerous it would be to put Bernie up against Trump. Between the superdelegates, the bribery, the caucus malfeasance, and the blatant lies, Hillary and the DNC did everything but literally stab the man in the actual back.
And that's fine. The Democrats can pick their candidate however they want. The party leadership thought that Hillary was a better choice. But there's been an effort to rewrite history to absolve the party leadership, many of whom are still in positions of power ten years later. The DNC fucked America, and they are as responsible as anyone for the disasters of the last, let's say, 50 years.
Maybe Bernie would have lost to Trump. Maybe Hillary would have beaten Bernie in a fair primary. We can't possibly know those things, because that's not what happened. We do know that the primary was not a fair election, and we do know that Hillary shat the bed against Trump.
But if it had been Sanders in a national debate, making the arguments, giving impassioned speeches, drumming up supporters and energizing the left, then at the very least Trumpism would not have gone unchallenged. There would have been resistance. Instead, Hillary and the Democratic leadership let go of the rope and now we're in the middle of a coup d'etat.
I was very active in the political scene then. It couldn't have been more obvious that msnbc, npr, and the broader DNC was setting up Hillary for a coronation.
She was already pushed aside in 2008 and it wasn't going to happen again. Hence why they cut back immensely on the number of DNC sanctioned debates.
2020 was a different beast in some ways. Democrats are not agile. They do not adapt to the moment. They play on seniority, and boy did they really play on seniority this time.
Biden held a grudge against Obama because he told Biden to hold off and give Hillary her turn. So here we go again with the coronation.
Combine the fact that Warren and Sanders split the progressive coalition while Michael Bloomberg joined the race to derail progressive candidates by spending $1 billion of his own money (unprecedented), and the rest is history.
I ultimately did vote for Hillary and Biden but the game being played couldn't have been more obvious.
Unpledged delegates were never the issue, as much as that drum was beaten (until they were Bernie's only path to victory, at which point suddenly everyone was onboard with wooing them).
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Bruh, if the campaign was sunk by the other side lying, it was never going to stand a chance against the fucking GOP, which lies as easily as breathing.
Bernie lost in 2016 by some 10%, and the only reason he came that close was because Clinton was exceptionally unpopular amongst conservative Dems - as seen by Bernie's poor performance in those selfsame areas in 2020 against Biden, himself not exactly radically ideologically from Clinton.
Not even close to the truth. Fuck's sake.
I voted for Bernie twice, in 2016 and 2020. I would vote for him again in a heartbeat. That's not the same as thinking that there was some secret wellspring of support waiting in the wings that the evil DNC suppressed. We lost because this is not a left-leaning country.
Man, fuck them, but these are all things I said at the time as well. And I was pissed enough at the time to throw away my vote on a third party in the general election. Bernie, ultimately, was not cheated in 2016 so much as we, the Dem electorate, failed him. That the DNC leadership are a bunch of cowardly, spineless, visionless corporate bootlicks more interested in holding onto their own power in the party than moving America forward is a footnote in this particular story.
They downvote you because you spoke the truth