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[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 50 points 3 days ago (5 children)
[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The public's political imagination is not shaped by the discourse of the public officials. It is something that falls from the heavens. That's why we must always chase after the "moderates"* rather than trying to shift the conversation in our favor.

nerd

*we did not conduct a poll to find the "moderate" opinion, we just made it up.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

*we did not conduct a poll to find the "moderate" opinion, we just made it up.

Chuck Schumer conducted a poll (sample size: his 2 imaginary friends).

[–] worlds_okayest_mech_pilot@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When I think through political questions, I also consult the two voices inside my head (Lenin and Mao)

[–] William_Nilliam@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

WWMALD

What

Would

Mao

And

Lenin

Do

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

Why even try a Rainbow Coalition when you could forever chase the End Of The Rainbow constituency. You're bound to get there eventually.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Don't let them forget that moderate now means "I support Luigi shooting CEOs in the street".

Their conception of a "moderate" is a caricature they invent solely for the purposes of the political outcomes they want. It is a mirage.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Spot on.

It's the couple conjured up by the hernia in Schumer's brain caused by forty years of mental gymnastics.

Medicare for all. Shooting CEOs. Protecting social security. All bi-partisan moderate opinions.___

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We have to fight this caricature. It's a puppet by which everyone measures themselves against.

In fighting game design you have an archetypal character that is used to deem the "middle" balance, this character is the character that undergoes very little change throughout the future of the game and all other characters are instead balanced around them. In Smash Bros it's Mario. In Street Fighter it's Ryu. Etc etc.

If you smash this archetypal character the liberals have created, this mirage that does not exist, then the field of ideology opens up completely.

The far right did their whole "What is a woman?" shtick when attacking trans people partially because they had already successfully used it in reinventing "centrism" as a caricature they slotted themselves into in order to lurch political views rightwards. We should be arguing about what a moderate really is and whether it even exists, and what views are genuinely popular that these people leave out of their mirages, the "centrist" that the right wing uses or the "moderate" that the liberal uses are diversions from what is real.

Creating consciousness of what is real and that these caricatures are not will create real class consciousness. They are idols that false consciousness is constructed around.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

we need some of the center right voters

Worked out great for Kamala, clearly the problem was she didn't have ENOUGH neocon war criminals of the not too distant past endorsing her

They need to get GW on board, maybe Condoleezza Rice

Hell, dig up Rumsfeld and Powell, puppeteer those fuckers around like it's Weekend at Bernie's, why even pretend to be anything other than a bunch of craven, elitist ghouls who would sell their souls down the river for a nickle

Such sniveling loser energy "our opponent is winning so if we do what they do we'll win" great strategy fuckface

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Such sniveling loser energy "our opponent is winning so if we do what they do we'll win" great strategy fuckface

It's unironically about to work in Canada later this month. But Canadians are even more spineless than Americans when it comes to politics, so that's not a surprise.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago

I agree, I think cheering for the murder of healthcare ceos should be the moderate position.