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I show them the Franco-Soviet Treaty of Mutual Assistance and explain that the west walked out on the collective security the Soviets were trying to set up. The alternative to the MR Pact was the Soviet people being used as yet another meatshield by the west for Nazi expansionism.
Obviously the anticommunist libs then (and today) were incredibly disappointed to see that opportunity to let Hitler do their dirty work slip away from them. Instead, Uncle Joe and Molotov turned the tables on those frogs and finally forced the west off their asses to oppose Hitler.
Yeha I agree with this interpretation but choose not to frame it in an adversarial way. Libs have a defensive reaction if you frame the west as intentionally doing something bad, whereas framing it as making a mistake(missing the opportunity to pre-emptively stop Germany) makes them take on board and accept the information.
A lot of my interaction with liberals revolves around the baseline of not tripping a defensive reaction because it makes them mentally shut down and close up. I need them to be open or else they don't take on new information they haven't seen before.