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Dark Mirror Ideologies (www.fortressofdoors.com)

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[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

offtopic, but

Consider Darth Vader. As a Sith Lord, he stands in total moral opposition to the Jedi. However, unlike his secular Imperial compatriots, he accepts all the same cosmological tenants as his spiritual enemies:

first, there should always be a consideration for Darth Vader. To my main point tho, I think it's funny that Darth Vader regularly showcases actual magic powers but his coworkers remain skeptical secularists? But in the Star Wars universe, unlike Christianity, the force doesn't care if you believe in it. It would be like Richard Dawkins was being condescending to a priest while a literal archangel was in the room with them. I suppose they are aware that Darth Vader is individually powerful, but a single force user's power is not enough to do planetary scale destruction and run a multi-solar system government.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I actually typed that before finishing the article lol

Admiral Motti: Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Rebels' hidden fort—(gasps as Darth Vader chokes him with The Force)

This seems interesting as an allegory for Elon Musk. He's ready to force choke (primary) any republican than stands up to him, but at the same time, his grok isn't going to find any fraud, stolen data tapes, or rebel bases, his spaceships arn't going to be on Mars any time soon, his fully self driving isn't going to fully self drive any time soon. He really is there just to be a threatening authoritarian, and it's not clear to me if the ancient religion in this context would be his failing companies, nazism, the vague concept of scifi, or a synthetic simulacrum of the aforementioned (aka his brand).

strangely enough, if we decided to follow this allegory to it's end, then Elon Musk will reunite with one of his estranged children, realize the wrongs of his ways, throw Trump over a balcony, then die.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

back on topic:

Dark New Atheists would agree with the New Atheists that there is no God and that seeking meaning primarily through science and reason will bring about a new secular enlightenment, but also that that's bad actually. Dark New Atheists therefore should embrace and promote obscurantism, pseudoscience, and woo, all while performatively worshiping a God they don't actually believe in.

that feels like basically half of the last 10+ years of online Atheism after elevator gate and gamergate, I guess you could say online Atheism suffered the Feminism-Manosphere split. But also feels like an apt description of modern mainstream Christianity in the US.