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The left is such a fringe minority in the US the idea that if we all stopped be sectarian and united together we'd be some force to to reckon with is delusional. We'd just be a slightly bigger fringe minority with tons of infighting whenever we came to an sort of ideological impasse, like anti-Zionism.
Sectarianism isn't always a bad thing, sometimes have a strict party line and sticking to it and telling others to fuck off is a benefit to leftist groups. The Bolsheviks rise to power was in part to them sticking to their opposition to the war and not collaborating with parties who were weaker on that position. It's not about having the most leftists it's about having the leftist line that motivates the masses the most.
In your opinion, what's the leftist line that will most motivate the masses in the US?
Wish I was smart enough to say.
I think part of the issue is that "the masses" in the imperial core are generally more reactionary and less open to socialist ideas due to their position in the global economy. Socialist ideas have only really gained traction here in recent times with highly marginalized groups within the broader worker class. Also we don't really have a constraint industrial proletarian class, our workers are atomized in distributed tertiary economic activities.
Lining up healthcare executives and publicly executiveing them
Probably is if the people calling for that also want to respect trans people and not nuke Iran they're immediately going to turn away from them.