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What evidence is that, other than the smears of western propaganda? Do you know why Russia moves so slowly across the battlefield, and why Ukrainian troops relate never ever seeing a Russian soldier? It's because softening up Ukrainian defenses with artillery and other ranged weapons prevents the loss of Russian lives at the cost of significantly slowing down battlefield progress. Do you know how many civilians have lost their lives in this conflict? The answer is about thirteen thousand, total. Can you tell me how three years of war with 13k civilian casualties compares to the American invasion of Iraq? Syria? Afghanistan?
It's quite clear that America does not value human life, but that isn't clear about Russia when you actually examine their tactics and how many civilians die.
America certainly doesn't value human life either, and I didn't claim that. I'm not really educated on civilian casualties in different wars, I was mainly referring to all their military personnel.
Russia routinely sends in waves of poorly equipped soldiers just like the earlier mention of them using Wagner in "meat waves", however this isn't exclusive to Wagner and Nazis, its just how the Russian armed forces operate.
A recent example I can recall is north Korean troops being used in the exact same manner, being sent In unprepared, poorly equipped, with no real heavy equipment support, where they promptly die by fpv drone.
Training conditions for new soldiers is also extremely poor before they're shipped out, at least it appeared that way in the past when I viewed many videos from new soldiers in Russia being trained. However that was a while ago, and who knows maybe it was all us/Ukraine propaganda videos.
I'm not gonna pretend to know everything, or claim I'm immune to propaganda. I certainty consumed a lot of western propaganda especially earlier in the war, I appreciate hearing all your differing opinions but at least on this point it seems comical to me to suggest Russia cares about the lives of their soldiers.
The « meat wave » myth came from nazis in ww2. It doesn’t reflect reality.
When I left the comment I almost said "meat waves" (propaganda term?) lol.
I say it because early in the war I was quite into watching combat videos of people dying (unhealthy) and meatwave was a very good description for a significant portion of the videos I watched.
Early in the war, when the LPR and DPR paramilitary troops were the front-line soldiers, not Russians? Russian troops were operating artillery, support, radar, missile, etc - not fighting on the front line.
Okay, if you're not willing to do a little bit of research, here's a paragraph from Wikipedia, which is exceedingly forgiving to the West:
You should also just read about Operation Iraqi Freedom. NATO troops started that war out destroying civilian infrastructure, directly. Water purification, sewage plants, power generation, they took Iraq back to the stone age. Here we are in 2025 and Russia has shown it has the ability to hit pretty much anything in Ukraine that it wants, but curiously it's only targeting substations rather than destroying power plants. I guess Russians are too stupid to understand how electricity is generated, it certainly can't be that they're making an effort to not completely delete Ukraine's electricity.
Can you please cite this? The usage of Wagner was notable explicitly because Russia doesn't use human wave attacks and never have - that's just a straight up fabrication. You can read West Point white papers about Soviet military tactics - the reality is they have always valued human life and empowered officers at the unit level to use creativity and make their own decisions. "Meat waves", the idea of rigid top-down command structure - this is all entirely made up by the west.
Please provide evidence of this. Ukraine and the west have been crying about NK soldiers and their only evidence has been showing Russian nationals who look asiatic and calling them Koreans. Russia has finally announced the participation of NK troops in the recapture of one single town in Kursk - they have not been used extensively or even within Ukraine.
Russia uses a conscript military. This is the nature of a conscript military. Russia does not ship people with poor training to the front. DPR/LPR did because they were rebels without the resources or infrastructure to do long formal training. Russia pays out big bonuses for conscripts who volunteer to be part of the SMO.
It seems that way because you have been fed lies about Soviet and Russian military tactics and actions for the entirety of your life. If you're American, you probably think that American troops liberated Germany and won the war, but if you look at actual troop deployments it was something ridiculous like 9/10 Germans being fielded to the Eastern front where it was only the Soviets who stopped them.