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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 125 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Whatever side of this issue you fall on, you should at least know that, tactics-wise, joining with the LAPD to do raids in Eastside LA is not going to work how you think it will. There’s movies, albums, books, historic moments in living memory, etc. that warn about that. Start in Sacramento or wherever. Don’t expect East LA to care about your “authority.”

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 98 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

The powerful and their goons seem to have forgotten that sure they can roll up anywhere with an army and overpower protesters, but that's not going to solve this. It's just going to start a true resistance.

There have been few times in history where resistance forces have fought state forces on an open battlefield.

As seen historically, a typical resistance force will harrass the enemy. Bomb their buildings, stockpiles, and infrastructure. Wait until the state goons are alone, at their homes, at the bar, in a grocery store and then that's when they kill them.

All sending the national gaurd in to kill protesters will result in is a true resitance forming.

The powerful have forgotten what it was like to be afraid to leave their fortresses

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I hope I’m not giving too much credit for a strategy, npbut it might just be an attempt to provoke a reaction. Either California backs down or they resist and there’s an excuse to take over. Look for a bunch of masked thugs to try to arrest Newsom for “treason”

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Only useful if you know when and where someone will be. Obviously heightens surveillance capabilities, but they can't be everywhere at once

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

I'm pretty sure they were throwing drones in on the side of the people, not the government.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You should look at the fields in Ukraine strewn with the fiber optic cables of 100's of kamikaze drones.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I mean yeah the US military always has the option to raze entire cities to sniff out a resistance. I doubt that will be done

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 26 minutes ago

I don't think the threat is coming from the military in this case, it's coming from MAGA.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Plus regular people can get hold of drones too.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 32 points 17 hours ago

Agreed. If protestor blood is spilled, it will foment a resistance that will build.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 18 hours ago

I hope a true resistance is born of this. We need to band together and rise up!

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I don't know history well...do tell or link some reads?

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/SiFGr51ubV4

This has been going on so long that there’s an 80’s Cheech and Chong parody song about it.

The 1992 riots started in South Central, which is historically African American. East L.A. is sort of the hub of Hispanic “immigrants.” (immigrants in quotes there because America swiped that land after the Mexican-American war; lots of Hispanic Americans didn’t cross the border but had the border cross them).

I don’t live there. I’m just an enthusiastic idiot. I love Los Angeles. So, I can’t do its history justice. Hopefully, someone else can. I have friends there and I go there a fair bit but it’s not my hometown so I don’t want to misrepresent L.A. (I live in New Orleans so L.A. and LA—the postal code for Louisiana—get mixed up a lot. So, I use L.A. for the city. No one else does.)

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's just Cheech on the song ...the two had split up by that point and Tommy Chong refused to have any part of it.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

My apologies. I wasn’t following their career closely when I was 7.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

The Irish resistance is the closest analogue to what that kind of armed resistance would look like.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

East LA. The best Pawnshops in America!