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I think it’s about time the press and protesters start showing up strapped. These people clearly don’t have any fear and are just power tripping on people for simply being there. Put the fear of God back into these pigs.
The people of sh.it.just.works and Lemmy.world both loved to try and act like I was out of line for calling for open carry the other night. Unfortunately California state law doesn’t allow for it. I think that it’s the only way to get them to back off with the Marines, the National Guard and with ICE though. If they’re not going to be afraid of us then they’re never going to change and the people saying “don’t give them a reason to escalate” will keep saying that up to the first battles at which point they’ll run and cower.
Fun fact, the real wave of gun restrictions started with the Black Panthers open carrying in California back in in the 60s.
https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act
That led to the Mulford Act:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
I hope Newsom puts forward legislation to eliminate the Mulford Act. That would give the Neoconfederates serious pause.
The state law made by fucking Reagan and should thusly be ignored.
Jury nullification, baby. Just make sure you're headed in front of your peers and not getting dumped into a concentration camp in El Salvador.
Completely agree. We should have gotten rid of the law. It was born out of racism and restricts our rights in Cali.
Escalation to violence is exactly what they want. It gives them all the justification they need to invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law and suspend your Constitutional rights. And not just in California.
If they want escalation then they can take it when ever they want. Police just wear plain clothes and throw a brick. Bam and done, at this point it’s best to just assume violence and act accusingly, it’s not like the media are impartial.
Are you sure? It seems like the escalation is what they don't want. And that's why they're having to call in the marines to try and scare people back into submission.
Passive acquiescence and blind obedience is what they want. That's why the news media is so eager to label these protests as abnormal, intolerable, and anti-American. If the conservatives wanted protests, they wouldn't be so eager to censor the protests' advocates and so worried about valorizing these opposition efforts.
Is that why they're shooting random protesters with rubber bullets, even though there's no justification? What are they trying to "prevent"?
Further protest and disruption of ICE raids by protesters.
I didn’t say start blasting. Right wingers show up strapped all the time showing they mean business and are given plenty of space as a consequence. The cops can do the same for other Americans. If they can’t then it shows the public that it was never about individual rights and all about allowing one group they favor to get away with it.
Protesters urged not to give trump administration pretext for what it is already doing
edit: Oh, what the hell. Let's add a snippet.
Where does the goal post moving stop? It’s not an escalation of violence if you don’t use it. It’s a threat to escalate to violence. If they aren’t afraid of you then they’re not going to change.
When they declare martial law are you going to be saying the same thing and hoping by just chanting loudly you change their mind?
Problem is the situation won't improve without an escalation
So what? Do you just watch until you're being herded into concentration camps anyway? This is the first instance of effective resistance to Trump (the April parades don't count) since January and they're calling in the Marines already. This was simply never going to end peacefully, because any effective act of mass resistance was going to be suppressed violently; avoiding escalation means avoiding resistance.
Edit: This person is not arguing in good faith. I cornered them in this thread and they claimed that ICE won't shoot people unless provoked and then that they're shooting people to provoke an escalation. Their argument seems to hinge on the idea that rubber bullets are harmless pranks you should just suck up.
Californians have a right to defend themselves