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[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Hi all, I hope people hear this and the post is not hidden. This is an insecure system, and talking on here about things you want to or will do will be used by the regime.

Please take this as it is meant. I fully appreciate the anger and the pain you are all feeling, and you are totally right to fight, but you must fight smart.

DO NOT LET YOUR ANGER GET THE BEST OF YOU. If this goes the way it's looking like it might, direct fights with whatfever is left of the States' forces is suicide, and the good guys need all the boots on the ground you can muster.

There are many veterans of the war on terror who are literal experts on the tactics needed to win this; seek them out.

Assume all coms are monitored because they are. Look after each other, people.

A friend who knows the score.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Crooks don't like being told on.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Trump should be impeached for this, and many other high crimes and misdemeanors in recent months.

[–] GoobyMcMooby@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 day ago (25 children)

I think it’s about time the press and protesters start showing up strapped. These people clearly don’t have any fear and are just power tripping on people for simply being there. Put the fear of God back into these pigs.

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The people of sh.it.just.works and Lemmy.world both loved to try and act like I was out of line for calling for open carry the other night. Unfortunately California state law doesn’t allow for it. I think that it’s the only way to get them to back off with the Marines, the National Guard and with ICE though. If they’re not going to be afraid of us then they’re never going to change and the people saying “don’t give them a reason to escalate” will keep saying that up to the first battles at which point they’ll run and cower.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

Fun fact, the real wave of gun restrictions started with the Black Panthers open carrying in California back in in the 60s.

https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act

That led to the Mulford Act:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The state law made by fucking Reagan and should thusly be ignored.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Jury nullification, baby. Just make sure you're headed in front of your peers and not getting dumped into a concentration camp in El Salvador.

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Completely agree. We should have gotten rid of the law. It was born out of racism and restricts our rights in Cali.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Escalation to violence is exactly what they want. It gives them all the justification they need to invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law and suspend your Constitutional rights. And not just in California.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Escalation to violence is exactly what they want.

Are you sure? It seems like the escalation is what they don't want. And that's why they're having to call in the marines to try and scare people back into submission.

Passive acquiescence and blind obedience is what they want. That's why the news media is so eager to label these protests as abnormal, intolerable, and anti-American. If the conservatives wanted protests, they wouldn't be so eager to censor the protests' advocates and so worried about valorizing these opposition efforts.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is that why they're shooting random protesters with rubber bullets, even though there's no justification? What are they trying to "prevent"?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Further protest and disruption of ICE raids by protesters.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Problem is the situation won't improve without an escalation

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca -4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No. The problem is, the situation will only get worse with escalation. Not better.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We had six months without protests. The administration seemed happy to escalate in their absence.

What if these protests aren't what's driving public policy? What if the problem is the administration itself and not the people reacting to the violence they're inflicting on the locals?

And ask yourself this. If ICE came into your city, what kind of community would you want to live in? One where your neighbors took to the streets to shut down the police convoys and scare off these thugs? Or one where friendly neighbors locked their doors and hid, while reactionary neighbors singled you out for the police to grab?

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca -2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not opposed to protests...the LA protests in particular. I'm opposed to violent confrontations with Trump's thugs. I'm opposed to citizens being the ones to escalate the situation. Trump already wants this. All I'm saying is don't give him what he wants. Let them be the ones to escalate. We all know it's coming...so why give him the satisfaction of making him look justified?

Don't just hand him an excuse. Stare them straight in the eyes, and make them take it. That's what protesting is all about. Your defiance is not about hitting back...it's about taking a hit, and standing up again. Make them look like the bullies they are. Don't legitimize their excuses. Prove that they're hollow.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’m opposed to citizens being the ones to escalate the situation.

"Stop resisting! Stop resisting!"

Don’t just hand him an excuse.

The excuse was the existence of Hispanic people in Paramount, California. Everything that followed was a consequence of Trump's bigoted pogrom against Latinos.

Make them look like the bullies they are.

They already do. But slapping the "bully" bumper sticker on an ICE truck full of your neighbors does nothing to get them out of that truck.

What the people of LA are doing is so much more than optics. They are actively saving lives and guarding their friends and neighbors from police violence.

They are resisting in the most material and direct way anyone can ask.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 hours ago

What the people of LA are doing is so much more than optics. They are actively saving lives and guarding their friends and neighbors from police violence.

They are resisting in the most material and direct way anyone can ask.

That is true. But escalation will get those friends and neighbors killed.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 18 hours ago

Californians have a right to defend themselves

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

Protesters urged not to give trump administration pretext for what it is already doing

edit: Oh, what the hell. Let's add a snippet.

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass publicly urged protesters Monday not to give the Trump administration any pretext for what they’re already doing and will keep doing no matter what. “Angelenos—don’t engage in violence and give the administration an excuse to inflict all the damage they have been inflicting carte blanche for months on end,” said Bass, adding that Trump and his team are just looking for a reason to respond with violence, as they would have done whether or not any of this happened.

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[–] GoobyMcMooby@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 day ago

I didn’t say start blasting. Right wingers show up strapped all the time showing they mean business and are given plenty of space as a consequence. The cops can do the same for other Americans. If they can’t then it shows the public that it was never about individual rights and all about allowing one group they favor to get away with it.

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Where does the goal post moving stop? It’s not an escalation of violence if you don’t use it. It’s a threat to escalate to violence. If they aren’t afraid of you then they’re not going to change.

When they declare martial law are you going to be saying the same thing and hoping by just chanting loudly you change their mind?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So what? Do you just watch until you're being herded into concentration camps anyway? This is the first instance of effective resistance to Trump (the April parades don't count) since January and they're calling in the Marines already. This was simply never going to end peacefully, because any effective act of mass resistance was going to be suppressed violently; avoiding escalation means avoiding resistance.

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[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reporter Ruben Salazar March 3, 1928 – August 29, 1970. Murdered by the LASD.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

During the march, Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputy Thomas Wilson struck and immediately killed Salazar with a tear-gas projectile. No criminal charge was filed, but Salazar's family reached an out-of-court financial settlement with the county.

Classic USA

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Congratulations no-voters. You brought Israel to America.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It should be thank you to the non voters. They have merely removed the veneer of morality and democracy from the face of US.

Remember the snipers in college sent by Biden against students participating in Anti-Israel protests.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

You can't enable atrocities abroad without them coming home to roost. Congrats to all US voters of the last 250 years.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you always blindly consume right wing propaganda?

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