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What is Neurodivergence?

It's ADHD, Autism, OCD, schizophrenia, anxiety, depression, bi-polar, aspd, etc etc etc etc

“neurologically atypical patterns of thought or behavior”

So, it’s very broad, if you feel like it describes you then it does as far as we're concerned

Rules

1.) ableist language=post or comment will probably get removed (enforced case by case, some comments will be removed and restored due to complex situations). repeated use of ableist language=banned from comm and possibly site depending on severity. properly tagged posts with CW can use them for the purposes of discussing them

2.) always assume good faith when dealing with a fellow nd comrade especially due to lack of social awareness being a common symptom of neurodivergence

2.5) right to disengage is rigidly enforced. violations will get you purged from the comm. see rule 3 for explanation on appeals

3.) no talking over nd comrades about things you haven't personally experienced as a neurotypical chapo, you will be purged. If you're ND it is absolutely fine to give your own perspective if it conflicts with another's, but do so with empathy and the intention to learn about each other, not prove who's experience is valid. Appeal process is like appealing in user union but you dm the nd comrade you talked over with your appeal (so make it a good one) and then dm the mods with screenshot proof that you resolved it. fake screenies will get you banned from the site, we will confirm with the comrade you dm'd.

3.5) everyone has their own lived experiences, and to invalidate them is to post cringe. comments will be removed on a case by case basis depending on determined level of awareness and faith

4.) Interest Policing will not be tolerated in any form. Support your comrades in their joy!

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on the social model of disability for neurodiversity and why i think most people misunderstand it (self.neurodiverse)

submitted 1 week ago by bunitor to c/neurodiverse@hexbear.net

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i've wanted to talk about this for a while, but i'm not interested in any fuckass liberal takes, so i'm posting this here

also, i'm not a medical/mental health professional so feel free to call me on my bullshit. i'm genuinely interested to hear why i might be wrong

anyway

adhd and autism are social disorders

that doesn't mean that "everyone is a little autistic". that doesn't mean that "labels don't matter". that doesn't mean that we should all get off our meds. they're genuinely disorders and need to be treated as such

what it means is that they're not illnesses. these conditions are not inherently disorders, they're socially determined to be disorders. they're disorders because they make us misadjusted to our current class society, not because they're inherently harmful to our health

i'm also not saying that there aren't inherent limitations to autism or adhd, of course there are, very clearly. but limitations aren't necessarily disorders or disabling. everyone has limitations, even neurotypicals, but not everyone has mental disorders. children and the elderly have particular limitations, but neither childhood nor old age are disorders. perfectly healthy people have numerous limitations compared to other healthy people, but those limitations don't hinder their participation in our current society

this discussion frustrates me so much because it seems to be either the "labels don't matter" discourse that put me off of seeking diagnosis for over a decade or the "autism/adhd is an illness and i'm broken for having it" discourse which sometimes veers very close to eugenics and puts the blame of our suffering in our "bad genes"

being autistic and having adhd sucks and we need as much treatment as we can get and i love my meds, but this suffering is not my fault. a capitalist class society that steals our lives and grinds us to a pulp is to blame. neurotypicals just happen to be better at surviving this hell (which is exactly why they're typical). in a society designed for our wellbeing, those diagnoses would look very different

what do you think?

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Or to put it another way, disability is relative and always has been. But the societal system we use is not the issue, it's our standards. If you go to Japan or Canada, they're so social with their health programs that, when you have a condition that makes you stand out, it really, really makes you stand out, and there's seldom anyone who will see you as an equal (in fact, Japan won't even see you as an equal if you're overweight; they quite literally have a "fat tax"). Having resided near the Canadian border, they knew they were talking to a non-Canadian when they were talking to me. Meanwhile, you have societies, such as the one Hippocrates lived under, that didn't treat things that way which were happy to navigate said differences rather than be dismissive.