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I have never had my computer completely restart after selecting "Update and shutdown", sure, it will reboot once or twice during the update cycle, but it has always ended with a full shutdown.
And here am I, never experienced Windows to "just shut down". It always restarted in the old days when I used to use Windows.
It looks like people do not understand the windows update process where it restarts and then updates some more and shutdown after that.
This is it. OP is just dumb. "omg it's restarting when it said it was at less than 100% and I can't fathom why that would be, I told it to shut down reeeEEEEE". I used to think this was job security ("my system got corrupted and it's totally not because I'm an idiot") but as the years go on I yearn to simply drop filing cabinets on their heads.
I have to use Windows for work. A few days ago I pressed the button to update and shut down as I started preparing to leave. I went away for a bit and when I came back to get my stuff, the computer was back at the login screen. It updated and restarted. Windows really does do that. I hate it.
I don't think I've ever had that happen - maybe it's a group policy thing or something?
GP is a good shout. I see this issue occur intermittently at work; and whilst I haven't checked our GPOs recently; I'm fairly certain the incident is intermittent amongst machines running the same policies (IE: a finance dept of 50 machines may see 10 exhibit this behaviour).
I've also seen it occur on home PCs. The only constant trait among them that I can determine is the OS (always 11). I just assumed it was introduced by some KB somewhere down the line or something like that.
Ah, I'm not running 11 yet. I'm one of the holdouts still on 10, I upgraded as soon as it was available and then restored from an image to 10. I fear I need to get pushed to it at EoL, since my home rig has two sound cards, a keyboard, and a mouse that are configurable only in windows. But fuck, I'm dreading the day, as I hate the start menu, the possibility of ads in explorer, the context menu is stupid and is not accessibility-friendly, I can't keep the taskbar at the top, the settings are getting more obtuse...
So yeah that could explain why I've not seen it before myself :p
Probably just misclicked and blames it on the OS.
"this has never happened to me, therefore this can't happen"
As an IT technician with a decade worth of user support and systems admin experience.
This is by far the most probable explanation.
I am not saying it 100% is the problem, just that user error is by far the most common issue I encounter.
I'm also an it technician with over a decade of experience, and I've seen this first hand, on multiple occasions.
I agree PICNIC is the goto in this scenario; it's not like shutdown commands are new, so why would it not work as intended? it was my initial assumption when faced with these reports; but having seen this occur multiple times, I can confirm it isn't. My running theory is it's KB related, as the issue is intermittent by device (though consistent with an affected device.. as in the device will exhibit this behaviour every time). It's also unique to windows 11.
Interesting, thank you for your thoughts, since I haven't seen it in person it is hard to get my head around it.
I completely understand. I'd be skeptical too had I not seen it firsthand
It's a real problem and it does happen. Stop blaming users for bad software
so with that logic, I've misclicked like 50 times and never actually clicked the update and shutdown option? Yeah no, the option is two buttons above the update and restart one, so I've only ever accidentally misclicked around once or twice.
no, this used to be the case but i can now guarantee that it (always?) just restarts and stays on the login screen. I've had this happen multiple times that i know it's not a fluke.
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IT technician here, I have a decade worth of experience dealing with computers and users, using Windows XP, 7, 10 and 11.
I have remoted into user computer on every continent except south America and Antarctica. I have used keyboard layouts from UK, US, DE, DK, NO, FI, FR, ES, NL, SE, TR, JP and probably one or two I have forgotten.
The only time I have seen the behavior described here was when using a third party patching system that fails to unlock bitlocker.
yeah i don't care about your experience, i care about mine. i literally use the update and shutdown option from the start menu and it consistently ends the process on my login screen after a reboot without shutting down. the fact that you think this isn't even possible only tells me you're shit at your job.
Damn, you go straight for the insult?
Not only do you go straight for the insult, but you also make claims that I have said things that I never did.
I never claimed that it was impossible (if I did, quote me on that, and I'll correct my mistake).
I did add an X to my post to show that I doubted that a normal update did this, which is resonable as I have only heard about this here on Lemmy.
You calling me shit at my job because I haven't found or heard about an obscure problem tells me that lack the knowledge and skill to make any determination about my job skill.
the X is the insult. I'm telling literally what happens on my own comouter and you're here like "umm doubt it you probably forgot how to shut down your system after 30+ years"
i refrained from saying fuck off because that's my normal response to shit like this.
As an IT technician, I have learned that everyone lies, weather they mean to or not, that is the entire reason of the "IT Aura" where shit just starts to work just because IT is watching the user.
You may very well be doing it exactly right, but Microsoft decided to change how that task is done properly, technically still making it a user issue.
The use of "X" was meant as a light hearted way of telling you that I believed something was left out of the explanation, this does not mean that it was done deliberately by you.
Shit happens, I don't blame you for Microsoft's incompetence, but I do blame you for your insults, claiming that I am shit at my job because I haven't seen an obscure issue that could be a normal missunderstanding of the normal update process, is, frankly, fucking stupid.
Going forward, I recommend you to not take memes so litterarly, remember that everyone has haf a different life and experiences, so step back from insults.
Oh, and your "fuck off" paragraph?
I am a resonable person, and never even considered posting that, even after being insulted by you.
ok, user error it is. how is the task done properly then?
Maybe read the fucking user manual
-This ticket is considered closed
figures. i bet it's some ancient ritual to ... checks notes ... shut down the computer.
surely can't be the shut down option on the shut down menu