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[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't have an answer to how to handle the region, it's beyond me. The Israel state sucks ass and it's committing genocide.

But the Iranian state are also extremist and I don't doubt for a millisecond would do terrible things if it had the support Israel has.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

two things can be bad at the same time

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

But certainly three things cannot be bad.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

no, that's heresy. four things though, that can be bad

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean would? They already contribute massively to destabilising the region. They dont just attack isreal either.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

And you don't think it would be worse when an air force and nukes?

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Its already maximally bad. Both sides have been doing everything in their power to destroy the other. From isreal it looked like they weren't doing anything to Iran directly but we can see now they were setting up for this operation for the past 4 years at least. So yeah it can't any worse unless isreal uses its nukes, Iran develops and uses a nuke or another major power joins the fray which are all very unlikely (us is already involved another major power would be russia, China, India, Pakistan)

I think this can lead to a good outcome. If Iran has a democratic election and elects a leader who isnt a religious extremist they can liberalise. If that happens isreal would also need to make massive concessions and chill the fuck out. The end needs to be a Palestinian state.

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

Last time Iran tried to become a liberal and democratic country the UK and US organized a coup to replace the government with a more dictatorial one, which is how they ended up like this. Is more violent foreign intervention the solution? We're about to find out!

Looking at their track record there's no reason to believe Isreal would give an occupied Iran any rights or do anything good for them. More likely it's just more territory to be ethnically cleansed and repopulated after they're done with Palestine.