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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Our presence was initially regarded hopefully by Iraqis, not that that justifies the invasion.

We managed to fuck it up in record time by selling contracts to 'rebuild' the country to grifters and attempting to reconstruct a government with zero (0) interest or intelligence regarding Iraqi needs and desires.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

The British Inquiry Into The Iraq War found evidence that both the US and the UK were guilty of the War Crime of Pillaging in Iraq, exactly because they forced the Iraqi Government which they themselves put in power to hire US and UK firms and to give US and UK firms oil exploration contracts.

Obviously, neither of the War Criminals (Bush and Blair) ever saw the inside of a jail cell, though I think somebody actually tried to do a citizens arrest of Tony Blair once.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 19 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The fuckup was the moment where, against the wishes of allies, they decided to immediately dismantle the Iraqi military, meaning tens of thousands of trained fighters suddenly lost the ability to feed their families, and anyone with a bit of money could buy a ready-made militia with weapons and local knowledge advantage.

I'm not shocked that anyone would be "hopeful" about the demise of Sadam Hussein.

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Our presence was initially regarded hopefully by Iraqis

Gonna need a source on that one

[–] lay@lemmy.zip 19 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Iraqi here!, I can confirm that people were optimistic of the invasion in the first 3 years or so in the hope that Americans would help iraq to re-establish itself thinking they would be a second Germany or Japan, then it all came crushing down with the civil war in 2006. Where America is now considered the evil that holds Iraq from moving in the right direction, and so began 20 years of destruction.
Edit: sorry for the typo.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

No, silly. Those countries were peers that had a chance of destroying us. It was in our best interest to make sure they viewed us as friendly from there on. Your country was a proxy colony, and that means you get jack while we take all your things /s

Gods I hate colonial thinking. From America especially, but in general as well.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

https://www.gallup-international.com/survey-results-and-news/survey-result/shifts-in-iraqs-public-opinion-from-2003-to-2025

In 2004, shortly after the fall of the former regime, many Iraqis expressed optimism hopeful for a democratic transition, improved public services, and national recovery. However, this optimism began to erode by 2007, following the outbreak of sectarian violence in 2006 and the partial withdrawal of U.S. troops. Confidence plummeted, with only 45 % of Iraqis believing the country was on the right track.

Don't mistake the Iraq War being a clusterfuck that the US exploited under the Bush regime for ideological and corruption purposes with Saddam's regime being something that Iraqis were mourning to see go.

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm... I'm sceptical because it doesn't show the actual poll results (what % expressed optimism in 2003?) and it just says "many" Iraqis expressed optimism not even most but I'll give you the point there was some optimism briefly

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Hmm… I’m sceptical because it doesn’t show the actual poll results (what % expressed optimism in 2003?) and it just says “many” Iraqis expressed optimism not even most but I’ll give you the point there was some optimism briefly

From the link I literally posted:

62% in 2004.