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”Give him a follow, he’s going to go far.”
this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2025
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The takeaway for American Hexbear might be that in order to do something meaningful you might need to get on stage and firmly declare that "I am your DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST candidate for [x]" like Zohran did. It's the proper materialist analystis ("socialism with burger characteristics" lol)
It's cracking me up to think about our users trying to do it but kinda throwing up in their mouths a little when they say the line. Or doing :lenin-shining: on the debate stage, and holding a "UNLIMITED GENOCIDE ON THE FIRST WORLD" deep in their chest while some ghoul is yapping at them. The tells would be so obvious to us watching haha, luckily it seems like Zohran is a true professional about it and maybe not as online-poisoned?
Bro I've already seen at least one comment somewhere hear calling us Dengist revisionists, if SWBC becomes a thing the infighting online will be hilarious
SSB?
Edited. it I'm tired and butchered my keyboard, meant Socialism with Burger Characteristics (SWBC) have no idea how I typed SBB
Haha ok that's what I thought
And honestly Zohran is just about exactly what I expect socialism to look like in the imperial core at its best. The true revolution will happen in the periphery (eyes on West Africa at the moment), but if westerners can do a genuine Democratic Socialism, they can assist comrades at the periphery by directing resources inward instead of toward the military and such, and even where unsuccessful at that, they create internal strife which also inhibits the empire's ability to operate in opposition to the more substantial revolutions.
The US will probably be the last place to actually get Workers' control over the means of production, dragged to heel by the rest of the world who moved on a decade or two before.
Hope I'm wrong though! Looking forward to the struggle sessions as Zohran does stuff and other US cities oust their democratic establishment!
Yeah, I'm not expecting this to lead to much personally and I definitely feel the turn off for Israel right to exist maneuvering, but I also feel like things have been oddly aggressive in comparison to the grace China is given for similar waffling about with words as realpolitik instead of moral compromise. Suddenly swathes of people are finding themselves Maoists that I either didn't see before somehow or decided this was a step too far.
Lol I was just posting about that in my last comment.
Politics is dirty as fuck, we can't moralize EVERYTHING if we want to win. Get power, not by any means possible, but with some compromise, and then future generations will be able to reset the slate and improve on what we build for them. We are not "the good guys" there are no "good guys". Fuck it, back to being an ancom "all states are exploitative, and must be abolished" if we are going to play that game. Then I don't have to analyze anything and I can be mad that states exist every day.
It's boring that a few of us can't take the W, but also I suppose that if they aren't US American, then it's totally fair for them to let it rip.
Ain't no hexbear rallying cry like death to Amerikkka
Ya I mean I agree that it sucks that Zohran is necessarily required to soften/compromise his anti-Zionism to gain electoral success, DTA indeed