Memes

My girlfriend in the early 90's was a Croat refugee after the USSR got couped. Her family fled so that the newly emboldened fascists in Yugoslavia didn't murder them.

We met working at customer service job for an overseas company. She would always tell me that she works twice as hard here as she did back home; and we don't even get paid enough to live here.

That's a real person with real first-hand experience of the before-and-after of the Soviet Union dissolved. I can text her right now. Your pee-paw's pee-paw in law who lost his plantation to the people can come at me if he wants to talk. But I doubt they're even alive still; assuming they existed in the first place.

Ah yes, communists, famous for not debating in intricate technical detail amongst themselves the internal issues of attempts at actually existing socialism.

Who are you who is so wise in the ways of science?

The only thing on foreign intervention in my reply is the reference to loans, which were taken by the Polish People's Republic, and indeed the Romanian Socialist Republic - the 80s were a period of austerity to repay foreign debt to continue purchasing specialized goods from the west - that is undeniable.

1. "Stole a Piece of Land barely enough to Feed a Family". Anecdotal evidence, one of which I have no evidence of being true or not, and is besides the point of "Communism bad, because they 'stole' my grandma's land".

2. "The State of Constant Fear" is also anecdotal reference, one which is even harder to verify and can be claimed just as easily as "a very large amount of people are supportive of revolution to overthrow the government because they don't go and vote"

3. Aha, the classic. If "Russia" (you clearly mean the USSR, but probably think modern day Russia is the same thing) is so evil and despised across the former Warsaw Pact, why is it still popular in East Germany? In Bulgaria? In Serbia? Even, before 2014, in Ukraine? And besides, what does Russia matter? Does the viability of a political ideology depends on if a state is popular around the world or not? Were that the case, Kingdoms would have been abolished centuries before the French revolution and religion would be gone by now.

4. "context I avoided on Purpose" No, it's nonsense you added, and a common tale told around these parts of the world. What do you think Donald Tusk, the Kaczyński brothers, Lech Wałęsa and Bronisław Komorowski, all major political figures of the post-1990 era in Poland all have in common? They were in the opposition to the PZPR. And nowadays the most common political ammunition between parties in Poland is to accuse each other of communism. This is moronic! "Oh he was in the communist party and that's why he's corrupt!" is fucking nonsense - and what's communist about market reforms, joining the EU, befriending America, like the Alliance of the Democratic Left did in Poland in the early 2000s? (and lost 3/4 of their voters after that).

Blame all the problems on socialism all you want, and I know you will, but how long will this continue? 20 years? 50 years? And you want to dig further and uncover more and more "crimes". All this'll do is find out that to expand the "Crimes" of communism, you have to go "the fascists from WW2 are innocent victims, actually"

My bad you're correct I accidentally pasted the paragraphs out of order

Here you go;

According to a recent poll, many Romanians remain nostalgic for communism, over two decades after dictator Nicolae Ceausescu was overthrown. The INSCOP Research poll revealed that 44.4 percent of the respondents believed that living conditions were better under communism, 15.6 said that they had stayed the same, while only 33.6 claimed that life was worse back then. When asked about dictator Ceausescu, 47.5 of the respondents claimed that he had a relatively positive role in Romania’s recent history, while 46.9 said that his role was rather negative. The recent poll was conducted between November 7 and 14, 2014, on a sample of 1,055 participants, with a 3 percent margin of error at the 95 percent confidence level.

A 2010 poll conducted by the Romanian Institute for Evaluation and Strategy provided similar results. Of the 1,460 respondents, 54 percent claimed that they had better living standards during communism, while 16 percent said that they were worse. Moreover, 49 percent claimed that Ceausescu was a good leader, 30 percent believed he was neither good nor bad, while 15 said he was bad. The survey has a 2.7 percent margin of error at the 95 percent confidence level.

How does that change the point made and the actual Romanian people's experience living under communism?