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Yes yes, language changes over time. I've heard that mantra for decades and I know it. That doesn't mean there aren't language changes that aren't grating when they become fashionable (and hopefully temporary).

For me, "morals" being used as a crude catch-all application of "morality," "ethics," "integrity" or related concepts bothers me. Sentence example: "Maybe if society had morals there wouldn't be so many minorities in prison." lmayo us-foreign-policy

An even more annoying otherwise-fluent-speaker modification I see is when "conscious" is used to mean "consciousness" and "conscience" interchangeably. Sentence example: "Single mothers on welfare that steal baby formula have no conscious." It sounds like they're saying the shoplifter is not mentally aware of their own actions, not that they're lacking sufficient "morals" to let their baby starve for the sake of Rules-Based Order(tm).

There's others, but those two come up enough recently, with sufficient newness, for me to bring them up here. Some old classic language quirks are so established and entrenched that even though I hate them, bringing them up would likely invite some hatemail and maybe some mystery alt accounts also sending hatemail after that. You know, because they "could care less(sic)" about what I think. janet-wink

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[–] huf@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • when people pronounce "us" with a z at the end
  • when people pronounce "thank" with a voiced th

fuck them.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

when people pronounce "thank" with a voiced th fuck them.

I need a clip to figure out if my dialect does this or not

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

voiced th is in "that" - you vibrate your throat. Unvoiced th is in "tooth" - you just blow and dont use your throat at all.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I pronounce those th's the same. I honestly don't understand what you're talking about.

[–] temptest@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

The unvoiced one sounds like compressed air, a hissing kind of noise like 'sssssss' but with the tounge touching the bottom of the top teeth.

The voiced one has a throat vibration like when you say 'errrrrr', simultaneously with the unvoiced mouth position.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

i've been hearing it all over youtube lately, dunno if it is new or if i only just noticed it

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What would the opposite of a voiced th be?

[–] huf@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the one in "thin", "thought", etc.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Appreciated! why wouldn't one pronounce th in thank then?

[–] huf@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

not what i mean. they pronounce it, just differently. pronouncing it with voiced th (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_dental_fricative) instead of voiceless th (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_dental_fricative)

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Oh okay, thanks for the explanation

[–] huf@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Spelling mistake, fixed it.