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[–] Svengarlic@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Sadly this will only be watched as justice porn for the left, the right won't even care.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone likes justice porn in America. The OJ trial was one of the most watched TV events in history at the time.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it's about to be topped.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know about that. An awful lot of conservatives are bending over backwards to explain why Trump was justified in breaking the law multiple times. They certainly do care, and some people have even died over it. Remember the guy who tried to go after the FBIfield office in Cincinnati, OH?

[–] Svengarlic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've heard some arguments saying that if Trump "knew" the election was rigged, he had a moral imperative to do whatever was necessary to maintain the union. The fact that the charges exist at all is proof of conspiracy, and the trial is just a parade. While I don't agree, it's hard to get thru to people that don't agree on the same objective reality.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turns out if you lie often enough and about something and just keep repeating it, people will start to believe it.

There's unfortunately, also some evidence to the contrary that he privately knew he lost and did all this crap anyway.

Nevermind the phone call where he asked the Georgia secretary of state to find him 11,780 votes. But, if that's not enough to convince people he's making shit up, nothing will convince them.

Unfortunately, I'm dumb at psychology, and I have no idea how you would deprogram these people.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For groups like this reprogramming usually starts with facing the wall.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What does "facing the wall" mean?

[–] CuttingBoard@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

It's like when the last thing a mosquito sees is it's ass when it hits your windshield.

[–] IdealShrew@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

firing squad presumably

[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

The argument that someone saying they "knew" something, without being able to provide a shred of evidence to support the claim, is somehow direct proof of said claim is, flat out, retarded. They're not logicians.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me it will be 1/3 Justice porn and 2/3 I’m living through history titillation.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah. While I absolutely have a bias and want to see this fucker convicted, I feel like no matter what, it's going to have at least one "Where were you when...." moment.

Almost every generation has a couple. Where were you when JFK was shot? When the Challenger exploded? During 9/11? When Columbia burned up?

I mean, obviously, reading the verdict is going to be there, but I feel like there's going to be some real courtroom horseshit / ooohhhh shiiit moments too.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was alive for the Columbia explosion, 9/11, the Challenger explosion, and Reagan's attempted assassination. I saw them all as highlight reels on TV hours after the facts. I saw OJ's glove escapade on the evening news. I expect there to be a Trump trial moment like that, but I don't need to see it live, and I definitely don't need to sit through hour after hour of courtroom procedure waiting to see that one moment.

I'm glad the trial will be recorded for posterity. That seems like the best way to answer claims of shenanigans in any trial. Actually watching the trial, all the way through, seems a little too much like watching Nascar hoping to see a big crash.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

seems a little too much like watching Nascar hoping to see a big crash.

NASCAR is not just about watching cars going around in a circle waiting for a crash.

It's "a day at the beach" for those who don't have an ocean nearby. Tailgate parties and beautiful people dressed for the occasion. A reason to relax and enjoy.

[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Username checks out.

In case you meant that as a slight, I live on one of the coasts, and have never been to a NASCAR event.

[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Not a slight, it was a mademesmile perspective. Something a Cosmic Cleric might say when someone belittles something they don't fully understand. I've never been to one either but the comment made me want to go to there.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Wouldn’t it be grand if we could end it on a high note, and stop thinking “I’m living through history” every 1-3 years?

Oh, to know boredom.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's going to be the exact opposite. They'll make a mockery of the justice system and turn it into a circus. The media will report every day and Drumph will keep his name continuously talked about. Meanwhile his team will watch what is reported nightly so they can strategize a narrative for "his viewers" while at the same time going as close to whatever line(s) as they can without crossing, but still keeping it a spectacle. It'll be even worse than the 4 years he was president.

[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

They cross the lines every day. Just a little. Problem is, the lines moves to compensate, instead of standing their ground.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was going to say that the conspiracy theorists would watch it simply to figure out all the ways this is a Jewish-space-laser-controlled judge presiding over an adrenochrome -addicted jury, with all the officers of the court being lizardmen in humanskin.

Then I realized that was simply too much effort for them; they'll just get their conspiracies from Fox and Tucker, and Joe Rogan as usual.

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You know, I'm getting real tired of you goyim knowing about our laser.

Tis a joke but I am actually jew

[–] Svengarlic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is what I should have said to begin with