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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why though? Can't imagine that these rounds are going to change the course of the war, so why? Are they out of non-Uranium ones?

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope the effectiveness is the point.

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Imagine being this bloodthirsty you're willing to let Ukrainians suffer the effects of depleted uranium just to kill more Russians

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"let" Ukrainians.

Your patronising colonial mask is slipping.

Ukrainians have ASKED for these weapons so they can get rid of the murderous, child torturing Russians out of their country.

Stop amplifying the propaganda of child torturers.

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Opposing the poisoning of masses of innocent people who had no say in the war is propaganda. I am very smart!" smuglord

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago

it's kind of impressive how consistently we get the dumbest takes possible from lemmy.ee

[–] invno1@lemmy.one -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think Russia would be the most bloodthirsty if this was a contest. Good try though.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Na, that's still you

Also least self aware

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago

The body count of the West is several orders of magnitude higher than Russia's

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Please don't use that against them, even as a bit as it's extremely powerful and causes irreperable emotional damage. Be mindful, libs are people too.

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Imagine defending a regime that targets hospitals and schools for missile attacks and rains white phosphorous down on cities.

If the Russians cared about anything beyond their own expansionist agenda, they'd retreat and end the war they started. If you actually cared about the suffering of Ukrainians, you would stop being a mouthpiece for that regime.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Fuck, I almost thought you were on about the US and Israel but guess not ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Too bad you still are pushing for the war to even continue. You don't want the Russians to genocide every single Ukrainian so you still propose they should just do it themselves and continue running straight into landmines. 🙄

How about some peace talks? Maybe? Oh wait Boris Johnson thought otherwise...

[–] Clarke311@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Because of the uranium bullets are denser and heavier than the lead bullets and you can use the uranium bullets on certain types of aircraft and other weapons systems to shred through medium to heavy armor that could not be penetrated with a lead bullet. TLDR this will be used as a force multiplier.

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are harder and penetrate armour better. So yes they will provide an advantage.

The sooner Russian occupiers are no longer murdering Ukrainians and dropping mines over every square meter of land, the less harm comes to Ukrainians.

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tungsten penetrators perform better than DU ones. They're just more expensive and Ukrainian lives aren't worth that much.

[–] antisoupbarrier@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Plenty enough to rip through the Russian armor! These are just old stockpiles of ammunition that weren't getting use anyways.

[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

love to refresh my arsenal via proxy war

[–] SpanishSpaceAgency@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Love to get rid of my toxic waste by simply poisoning a different populace

[–] rogrodre@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I know it hard for the recently scratched liberals to understand this, but It's perfectly okay to decommission a weapon, you don't have to use it on people to get rid of it.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russian forced are mechanized and entrenched, depleted uranium self sharpens on impact, yielding far better armor penetration than previous technologies.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

And more generational cancer

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No individual measure aside from troops on the ground or nukes is going to change the course of the war by itself.

The ammunition is very effective at punching through the armor. But the Ukrainians will be fucked when in 5 years Leukemia in children is skyrocketing

[–] invno1@lemmy.one -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe but if they lose the war will that be better?

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what, you're suggesting that right now they are "winning"? By what metric are they "winning"? Western brownie points? Because all of the teenagers and young adults that are 6ft under would beg to differ.

[–] Rapture@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You suggest they roll over and give up?

[–] bouh@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Ammo is ammo. It's better than hurling stones.