On this day in 1897, the Lattimer Massacre occurred near Hazelton, Pennsylvania when a Sheriff's posse fired into a crowd of unarmed, striking miners, killing 19. Miners, mostly Eastern European immigrants, had been protesting for better pay and union recognition.
A week prior, over 3,000 miners had gone on strike, demanding better pay and an end to the forced use of the company store. On the morning of September 10th, approximately 400 miners peacefully marched to a newly opened coal mine in Lattimer to support a new United Mine Workers (UMW) union there.
After refusing an order to disperse by a Luzerne County sheriff's posse, the posse fired into the crowd. Nineteen miners were killed and several dozen were wounded.
Despite the fact that sheriffs had been overhead joking about how many strikers they would kill that morning, as well as medical evidence that demonstrated miners were mostly shot in the back, the sheriff and seventy-three deputies were acquitted at trial, insisting that they were charged by the crowd.
The massacre was a turning point in the history of the United Mine Workers (UMW), who received more than 10,000 new members in the aftermath of the massacre.
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I just learned about the term "e-sports".
Do g*mers seriously think playing video games is a sport or is this a bit
They are equivalent. I say this not to elevate video games but to denigrate sports.
My take as well
I have mixed feelings about it because on the one hand, fuck gamers, but on the other, the games they're talking about do require some level of dexterity, both physically and mentally, when you're talking at that high of a level, and it is a competition between players.
I think the question(s) that stumps me isn't so much "can video games be really classified as sports, even if we call them e-sports" but "okay, if video games don't deserve to be called sports (at least in that way), that's fine, but taking that argument forwards to some sort of logical conclusion, why do we care so much about what is and isn't sports in the first place? what makes some activities sports and other not? physical exertion counts - but why not mental? what degree of physical exertion is required? is sex a sport? should we care about the distinction between non-sports and sports anyway? why?"
at the end of the day, even if I said "No, video games cannot and will never be sports because they don't require enough physical exertion and blah blah blah" - okay, sure, but that doesn't mean that ranked competitive gaming vanishes overnight. you could call a League of Legends or DOTA or shooter game tournament "Blongus" rather than "e-sport" and it doesn't change anything really. so ultimately "e-sports" is a good label I feel, it acknowledges that there's some category of online competition, usually for entertainment, that players spend years "getting good" at. that only doesn't match the "physical exertion" requirement of sports, but matches every other real definition you can give the word "sports" without excluding a bunch of actual sports, so why not call it "e-sports"?
Do you think chess is a sport?
What lol of course not why would that be a sport
OK, so what is it?
It's a game, are you being serious?
How much sweat do you have to drop for something to be a sport? Is parachuting a sport? Is sweating in a sauna? Is sweating in a sauna till you are the last person in it? Is it when you sweat while playing FPS games?
and International Socialism, December 1996, Chris Bambery,Marxism and Sport (Marxists.org)
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This actually supports mf cooms anti sports mentality that sports supports alienated consciousness and false solidarity for the sake of capital.
What on Earth lol
Yes cuz I find this distinction interesting, but it just comes down to whether or not you think physical exertion is a necessary aspect of a game for it to be considered a sport (and one's definition of physical exertion)
Well not all sports are games, but afaik every definition of sport includes physical exertion
Not every, e.g. the International Olympic Committee defines chess as a sport. And then per country each government decides if it is, for the matter of sport subsidies. So it's a politics thing, too.
And then what's "physical exertion"? What's the threshold? Personally IDC about the sports definition because it makes no difference in my life.
In my life I do see a distinction between me playing CS with my friend, and the professionals who have 15k hours in-game, practice every day at their org's HQ, have a whole team of sports psychologists, dieticians, analysts, and coaches, make millions, and play in football stadiums in front of a crowd of 20k people. I'm an amateur playing a game for fun, they're professionals akin to athletes because they devote their life to it. But IDC if it's a "real" sport or not because I'm not a prescriptivist. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
Dieticians?! How in the....I guess maybe so that they are eating foods/supplements that support focus and mental acuity or something?
No, just to help them meal plan and stay at a healthy weight, in combination with a personal trainer. Healthy diet & being fit = more energy & quicker response time
I mean hey, the Team Liquid compound even has a fully staffed kitchen available to the players
How, I had NO idea how intense professional gaming was. Wild
Fighting games are more of a sport than golf will ever be and I will die on that hill.
Yeah it's a competitive game like chess. E-sports sounds cooler than professional or competitive gaming though.
I played competitive strategy games in tournaments where you had to bring your own PC over 15 years ago and I'll admit the term was seen as a joke for quite a while. That being said, how much exertion must happen before something becomes a sport? Is target shooting a sport? Starcraft plates routinely get wrist and arm injuries as in sure most other pro gamers do so there's clearly a physical aspect.
Also how have you only just now heard the term?