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[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand your perspective, but the way I see it, it's like renting a movie at home versus seeing it in a theater. For some people, the extra money to go to a theater is worth it. I'm not paying $20+ to see a movie once at home though, and especially not to see it on my phone. Discounted price for a discounted experience. If they want to charge $20 for the mobile version, and $40 for MacOS, then I'd be way more likely to try a triple-A game on a phone.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you get it with no compromises on MacOS, so why would they discount the price there? This is buy once, play "anywhere" (anywhere that's good for Apple). You don't pay less for a game you only play on a Steam Deck either.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, then $20 for the mobile app, and $60 for MacOS (which should include a mobile copy). That would work for me too. I don't have a Steam Deck, but I for sure would not pay full price for a game just to play on the Steam Deck.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the Switch and the Steam Deck have shown that portable games are worth every bit as much as non-portable, but in both of these cases, they output easily to the larger experience at home. I think Apple is providing that too. $60 still makes sense to me, since you're always buying the MacOS version which includes a mobile copy, which you said was acceptable.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if you don't have a Mac though, the MacOS copy is going to waste. I think Nintendo games are far too expensive as well. I own some, but I'm not happy with the price of the games (my kids love them though).

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a Mac OS copy and an iOS copy any more than I have a Steam Deck copy of a game and a desktop copy of a game. From what I can tell, it's the same thing. Obviously this is beneficial for Apple keeping you in their ecosystem, but this serves the same function. Quite frankly, I'm not sure why you'd have an iPhone if you don't have a Mac, but I know plenty of people do.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not sure why you’d have an iPhone if you don’t have a Mac

iPhones outsell MacBooks something like 10:1. The majority of people with iPhones, if they are playing games not on their phone, are using consoles and/or PC's.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, I'm aware. But the value proposition of an iPhone doesn't make sense to me if you don't also have a Mac.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess that depends. A lot of flagship phones are reaching $1k+ these days, and I rely on my phone for a TON of things. I need the support, battery life, and I enjoy the Apple ecosystem (not just my MacBook, but the watch and AirPods too). I've found it made sense for me. I guess the value of things really depends on the buyer's perspective.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, so you do have a Macbook. Maybe it's not M1, but if you enjoy that part of the ecosystem, you'll probably upgrade to one at some point. At which point, that gives you a "Mac copy" of the game too.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah. Sorry if I didn't mention that. I have an M1 Pro. I still wouldn't play the game on my MacBook. I have an ultra wide screen and there's no way my Mac would run the game well. I have a gaming desktop that is much more suitable for desktop gaming.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Heh, honestly, this is the problem with Apple's value proposition when it comes to gaming. You'll see elsewhere in this thread that I don't think Apple has shown they know how to really make a solid gaming offering, and this is a large part of why.