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if you're going to give us your fake unbothered attitude then please go back to reddit. it's unhealthy to pretend to have ironic detachment from your worldview, as if this is actually a fun debate, while actually feeling troubled and challenged by people who don't conform to the liberal worldview. you're trying to assert - and we see through - that you imagine us to be some uncontacted tribe which you are visiting as a redditor missionary or anthropologist, writing "hmm, a fascinating shitposting attitude in this society! I shall report this to the civilized internet!" in your journal, thus automatically placing any and all of our views in the "uncivilized" category for automatic discarding.
having this detachment feels much psychologically safer than having concrete, heartfelt beliefs that you have to defend, but leaves you confused, miserable, and directionless about the world and how to solve problems. I know this because I was in your position once upon a time when I was a young liberal. you are, in three words, "totally not owned."; in another three, "actually having fun." I have another three words for you.
you're still doing "triggered" stuff? my god. I'll help you fix your time machine so you can go back to 2016
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I'm not detached from my worldview. But if holding a belief means I have to view everything that happens through the same lens, and not being able to appreciate multiple perspectives on an issue, then yes, I'd rather not hold a belief but decide from case to case. If that means to you that I'm detached then I can't help it.
Being able to enjoy an argument doesn't imply that I don't take it seriously. Feeling troubled and challenged by people who don't conform to a world view... That could surely be said about the reactions of many here, why should I be an exception?
I don't sort most views here in my "uncivilized" folder and I couldn't care less to "report" that to anyone, as I'm not aligning with any particular community and am not interested in making fun of others when I can be sure that I will get nice slaps on the back for. You surely do enough for the "uncontacted tribe" image yourselves when I remember the (funny) posts about the panic of some people in other communities after federation. Plesse don't imply that I invented this shit or that it's now suddenly some offensive perspective.
You could, I don't know, actually argue with the points you disagree with and articulate the rationale you used to arrive at your conclusions instead of doing this whole "oh ho ho you actually believe a thing I disagree with how fascinating" shtick.