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https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-costco-kroger-facing-self-checkout-reckoning-2023-10

Some are finding they still need employees to combat theft, assist with purchases, review IDs, and check receipts.

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[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

porky-happy when talking about workers: "Workers don't create value!!!! Bosses do through their unique labor of guidance and supervision without which the workers would be lost and confused!!!"

porky-scared-flipped after "automating" the jobs of the workers (but not really): "WTF, machines don't create value???? They are merely the embodiment of past labor already done by humans???? Workers are needed to operate the machinery through the labor of guidance and supervision, without which the customer would be lost and confused???? WTF?!?!?!?! I thought I was good at economics and these machines would save me money!!! I thought technology was supposed to be magic and not simply constant capital that decays over time and requires maintenance!!!! WTF?!?!?!??!?!"

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would argue that self-checkout machines are less about automating labor away and more about transferring that labor to an unpaid workforce (customers).

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you make a fine point. thinking about it now, doesn't this show that the bourgeoisie is even more clueless and less able to "innovate" than they suggest in their propaganda? Since they aren't even automating away the drudgery, or improving customer satisfaction, but simply transferring the labor from the worker to the customer? That seems like a desperate attempt to stop the declining rate of profit rather than a real "innovation"

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think the bourgeoisie really innovate at all anymore because there are now professional workers who have that job instead. Production engineers improve production methods and processes, for instance, and there's a whole genre of "supply chain management" jobs. This is of course ignoring the actual engineers and programmers who design the big new "innovative" products (see: Tesla, Spacex, Amazon).

But yeah I think self-checkouts and the like are a transparent attempt to cut costs, and this article is them being pissed that actually this is one corner that can't be cut as much as they'd like.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's true. It's the workers educated in technical and professional fields who do the real innovation. But since the booj own the means, they decide in a top down way what those workers work on. I.e. they "steer" the "innovation" in a direction meant to benefit them. And it seems that they're even bad at that part, now.