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God help them. The slaughter to come is probably beyond our imagining

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[–] halfpipe@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Israeli security state has a reputation for competence. I wonder, were they also hollowed out be decades of neoliberal policies'?

Probably doesn't help that the political leadership consists of a bunch of guys who had to pull every dirty trick to keep themselves and their friends in office, because otherwise they'd be in prison for corruption.

[–] GreatWhiteNope@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

I don’t know if Israel has been around long enough to be inherited by fail-sons, but this seems inevitable in capitalist societies.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

History shows us that there are no invincible armies and that there is, on the contrary, a "victor's disease" where successful armies become set in their own doctrine and cannot adapt to new circumstances. There's also the tendency of occupation armies to devolve into little more than colonial gendarmes, which chips away at their efficacy.

The army of the Zionist Entity might be afflicted by both, in addition to being a brittle force with little in the way of reserves or strategic depth. It was already handed a sound defeat in Lebanon against Hezbollah, and it's performance in some of those battles was embarrassing.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was already handed a sound defeat in Lebanon against Hezbollah

Support for that war fell off in Israel because people were angry about the high rate of casualties. I don't think they would have those issues with a war with Palestine as Israelis can be quite fanatic on that point

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Yes, but the fact that they suffered so many casualties against an enemy with no air force or armor speaks to military failure too.

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

They were too busy doing thirst trap IDF Instagram photoshoots to remember they run the largest, longest standing open air prison in the history of the world; thank fucking god for small favors

Imagine seeing a new kid from your hood, every week, getting shot in the face for the crime of not being Jewish for your entire lifetime then one day you find yourself behind enemy lines.

[–] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

Ya is this indicative of a structural weakness in Israel, or is this the priced in cost of successfully absorbing more and more land? What's the fact pattern necessary for Palestinian success?