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This tells us that you don't know what science or materialism are or how they work.
A moment of clarity.
Aaand we're back.
And finally an explanation, for which you have my deepest sympathy. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I'm glad you failed and that you're ok to be living now. It takes what it takes, each to their own.
Ps
It seems that adult neurogenesis hasn't yet been shown to happen to any meaningful degree. Time will tell. And, dare I say it, scientific research.
I wish you well.
Yeah, there was a lot to unpack and I definitely had a bunch of eyebrow raising moments. But if it works for our Lemmy pal up above, I'm not going to shake that tree.
I read things like this (or try to) and I think, just let him be. The most powerful thing that can help someone is what they think works for them. There's no need to tear it down if it's not harmful to others.
Well, if they can vote and spread misinformation then I see that as harmful to others.
If someone stumbles across something like this and is influenced by it, I think odds are extremely great that they were already of a similar mindset. If it preached violence or bigotry or anytime I'd see more of an issue.
Which is exactly why I bother. That mindset is by it's nature easily influenced, but it's not always permanent. Showing the huge issues with these type of comments plants seeds of doubt in the hope that anyone who's in that place is less easily convinced.
They aren't thinking straight and that's the way harmful ideologies take hold.
You can't reason someone away from a position they didn't reason themselves into.
Shove your gaslighting, ppl...
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn9474-rewired-brain-revives-patient-after-19-years/
He grew a replacement corpus-callosum 'round the back of his brain.
"no evidence" is a lie.
Read Dr. Norman Doidge's books, if you've sufficient intellectual-integrity to do so:
https://www.amazon.com/Brains-Way-Healing-Discoveries-Neuroplasticity-ebook/dp/B00KWG9L2A/
https://www.amazon.com/Brain-That-Changes-Itself-Frontiers-ebook/dp/B000QCTNIW/
I spent several years much-of-the-time-intermittently-catatonic with brainloss, a few decades ago:
Recovery isn't mere-makebelieve, as Scientism so authoritatively asserts,
...and being gaslighted by people who are adamant that "no evidence exists" when it's staring them in the face, is insulting.
Scientism can go gaslight other people:
I know the difference between authority-based-"science", properly called Scientism, and ACTUAL-EVIDENCE-based Science.
Here is an article which was included in John Brockman's book:
https://www.edge.org/response-detail/25433
on how too-much "evidence-based" medicine isn't replicable.
I trust what TESTS to be true, as that is the best religion of all: empiricism.
Science: the ruthlessly-objective, systematic, progressive annihilation of both direct & indirect ignorance, no matter what that does to one's worldview.
THE keystone book in understanding this, is Douglas Hofstadter's brilliant "Godel Escher Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid", which hammers that if one remains within a self-consistent formal-system-of-knowing, then it ISN'T POSSIBLE for one to be knowing Universe-complete, and that is mathematical fact.
Journalism, real journalism, is the essence of science, just without the hard-rigor.
Anybody who isn't competent in understanding what Hofstadter's book means, isn't competent in philosophy.
https://www.amazon.com/G%C3%B6del-Escher-Bach-Eternal-Golden/dp/0465026567/
https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Journalism-Revised-Updated-4th-ebook/dp/B08ZXRQLZT/
"That which isn't matter, DOESN'T EXIST."
That is materialism.
"God: The Failed Hypothesis", by Victor Stenger, iirc, was the book that made me see what the fundamentalist materialists were saying.
Unreadable gaslighting, materialist dogma is.
The whole "The Hard Problem" of Consciousness is produced by the definition of "real" to be identical-with "matter".
Artifact-of-the-view.
aka prejudice.
You deem it delusion that the Soul-memories of some of its other-lives/incarnations nuked my Catholic upbringing?
lol
I changed my worldview as a direct result of evidence, and that took years, because the smashing-of-assumptions was sooo profound...
... and you are gloriously certain that it is only my delusion, because it is axiomatic that That Cannot Validly Be,
and you deem me incompetent in Science?
That is funny.
I've proven unable to put my proper, revised, with systematic links to things, including a scientific paper proving that Western Medicine has been gaslighting an entire category of patients, up, and I've downvoted my comment that you replied-to, to make it no-longer-significant on this discussion,
but I'm leaving it up, so that all the denigration can be visible, and everybody, for all time, can laugh at the "defective" that I am, who wrote a spur-of-the-moment 1000-word comment, and didn't get it hammered-out perfectly-clearly.
Feel free to denigrate my replacement comment, which had to be posted in 2 parts, because of some kind of character-limit, possibly at 10k chars.
Wishing you well, but your contempt for my understanding is insulting, and your presumption that knowing-of-previous-lives-of-one's-continuum is delusion axiomatically, is also insulting.
Awareness is simultaneously immaterial AND real.
All "science" which ignores/denies that, isn't science, it is ideological-addiction/prejudice, and gaslighting.
At population-scale, so long as you don't have either a population primed with materialist prejudice, or with anti-subtle-awareness-habits like eating pork or eggs, it is entirely possible to test whether reincarnation is real,
and there are multiple books on the scientific testing of such, as with documenting a child's remembering of some previous-life, and then going to that part of the world & doing the history-research to discover that what that kid said, was true.
Don't do the research, if it'd violate your assumption-river/religion, though, obviously: devout materialism is comforting for you, then remain in it, if you want, and glory in the amassed Authority which contempts my empiricism & objectivity.
"The Boy Who Knew Too Much", is, iirc, 1 of the available options, though there is another book which is, apparently, a huge & dry scientific work, yellowish cover, iirc.
Salut, Namaste, & Kaizen, but I hope we never meet:
The intersection of Empiricist-Objectivity & Kaizen is the ONLY TRUE assumption-river/religion, in my eyes, and whatever cosmology works most-completely, not most-self-consistently, but most-completely, is what I need to hold to,
...and that you have already deemed axiomatically to be only delusion.
Good.
Honour your path.