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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by makeasnek@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

Always a smokescreen to take away your rights. Epstein plead guilty in 2008 to trafficking children to nobody.

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[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 25 points 1 year ago

Maybe if 30% of the population weren't trying to re-elect one of those people for president it would be easier.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's so adorable how many Americans think that the oligarchs they support are different.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today -3 points 1 year ago

LMAO imagine being an apologist for pedophilia and human trafficking and then judging others.

[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your current president literally raped a woman in 1993. Her name is Tara Reade.

Also, after winning the Nobel peace prize, Obama dropped an average of 30k bombs / year (80 per day) during his presidency, mostly on Muslim countries, 2, 3. In 2016 alone, dropped 26,171 bombs in the Middle East and North Africa, up 3000 from the previous year. The countries bombed include Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, and Somalia.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tara Reade's story is purely hearsay, and she didn't come forward until Biden was running for president 26 years later. Everyone who worked in that office at that time said it would be totally out of character and they've never heard anything like it.

All that stuff about Obama is whataboutism and honestly the man looks like a saint compared to Trump and Bush.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Attacking the victim and defending the rapist is precisely what I'd expect from somebody like you.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Listen, I can say that any number of past employers raped me, but why does that alone constitute evidence? Tara Reade has plenty enough to gain from lying, and nobody who worked there corroborates the claim. They even called it absurd.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

There is plenty of collaborating evidence to her claims and what you think she had to gain from chuds like you making her life hell as result I have no idea. You've exposed yourself as an utter piece of human garbage here.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Present it. She literally published a book and accepted paid speaking events. Accusing Biden pays all of her bills. Last I heard the only people who were willing to side with Reade was her mother and her neighbor. If there were a sexual harassments claim in a government office then there are normally large paper trails and documented statements involved.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I mean the most obvious piece https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/video-tara-reade-mother-joe-biden-larry-king.html I just love how you keep carrying water for this pedo, this is what he does in public when he's on camera

You're deplorable.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh no he touched their shoulders. Clearly that justifies you comparing him to a literal rapist. /s

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

He is a literal rapist, but people like you don't want to acknowledge it because you have no morals. Go to your workplace and try touching shoulders like that on your coworkers, let me know how long before your rapist ass gets fired for sexual harassment.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Imagine using straw man arguments when you have no actual point to make.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago

My point is very clear, if people want Epstein's list of associates and people who paid him to see justice, then they need to vote accordingly, and definitely NOT for the guy who was good friends with Epstein and visited his island many times.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

Everybody on the list should be prosecuted, why aren't the democrats doing that?

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First of all, if a hearing is held in congress and not by the DOJ, then you're absolutely expecting too much to think anything will be done for justice of past crimes. I don't think the Senate or House can do anything on this topic other than keep the government funded. Historically, Congress has never shown the capacity to prosecute outside of changing how laws are enforced, which is moot because everything Epstein did is already illegal.

Second, I assure you there are active investigations to many of the names in the list, but not much incriminating evidence was found for the more than a thousand people he had some form of contact with over the last couple of years due to their discreet methods of conducting business. A lot of relevant court documents only recently became unsealed since trials started in 2016. Many new contacts were revealed at the end of the Virgin Islands Civil Lawsuit as well. Ghislaine Maxwell got 20 years, Sarah Kellen could be next as Federal Judges have expressed interest in charging her as early as the conclusion of the Maxwell trials in January 2022, JP Morgan have spent 13.8 Million USD on legal fees in the case and will pay 290 Million in reparations for facilitating the financial side of Epstein's business, Deutsche Bank will pay 75 Million, etc. To claim that nothing has happened and nothing is being done is ignorance.

As much as some people would love to blame and execute Bill Clinton, for example, all he ever did was borrow the man's plan on a trip to various charity medical sites across Africa that Epstein was unrelated to. So then where do you draw the line? Epstein made it his business to go to parties and shake hands with the influential. He disguised himself as a wealthy venture capitalist for over 2 decades before being outed as a trafficker.

In fact, almost half of Maxwell's charges were dropped because there wasn't enough concrete evidence and some of the charges overlapped with a previous conviction where they were granted immunity in a plea deal for state level charges. That's how hard it is to get a conviction for a crime with only witness testimony. It's like pulling nails. But it can be done.

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