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do the right wing guys think it's like a draco malfoy thing where they're a good guy underneath?

like when it's like a lady and a cop and the lady seems like a normal sorta boring suburban lady

do you know what i mean. this is one of the things where if you try to ask an AI bot it yells at you

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[-] unoriginalsin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Allowing it to be called "pro-life" has been the greatest lie told by the oppressors in quite some time.

[-] rchive@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Both pro-life and pro-choice are sanitized descriptions of the beliefs they refer to. Both movements contain people that believe completely insane things on the topic, like that women or doctors should be imprisoned or worse for making a certain difficult health choice, or that unborn children aren't really people until they're on a particular side of their mother's vagina.

[-] jasory@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

And you are further sanitising the PC position. In the vast majority of cases abortion is not about health, but convenience. The vast majority of PL support medical exempts as shown by the actual wording of the laws passed.

[-] rchive@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That changes a lot depending on what time period of pregnancy you're looking. The later you look the more it's about health. By the time you get to third trimester abortions they're almost exclusively about health. The ones of convenience are early, it all makes sense.

[-] jasory@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

Citation? I can't find anything to support this, just vague gesturing by organisations with no hard data. The only rigorous data I can find is a study from France which is irrelevant because France bans late-term abortions except for medical reasons. In fact I suspect that this is the cause of this belief, third trimester abortions are primarily medical, because most states in the US and countries in the world ban them except for health reasons. So of course the studies that address them are all going to be covering medically indicated abortions, and then journalists take this to the presses.

There is Kimport's paper which doesn't support your claim, but I find it quite shoddy regardless.

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