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[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 62 points 10 months ago

Kim Jung Un supports Hamas, just like Iran and Syria

is just the latest remix of Bush Jr's "Axis of Evil" speech.

I can't imagine how the logistics of a NK to Gaza support network is supposed to even function. Yes, it makes Kim look cool on here, but none of it really passes the smell test. Not when the US is impounding Iranian cargo ships with impunity and suffocating the entire Levant with surveillance tech.

Unless NKorea has a teleporter, I'm not clear on how anything they might try to send can reach anyone currently in Gaza.

[-] ilyenkov@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The DPRK has been supporting Palestine for decades - this isn't BS or new

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

I have seen at least two pictures of Hamas militants with what were identified as North Korean made RPGs. I think they're able to get supplies into Gaza the same way Hamas gets other supplies in.

[-] GriffithDidNothingWrong@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

Conflict zones like the middle east are hot markets for arms dealers and surplus materiel tend to accumulate there. I doubt there's any direct conduit between the two countries though

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

identified as North Korean made RPGs

Identified by whom? The same folks that gave us "40 decapitated babies", "they bombed their own hospital", and "we did DNA testing on a random skull fragment to confirm Hamas killed Shani Nicole Louk"?

I think they're able to get supplies into Gaza the same way Hamas gets other supplies in.

The Hamas group has a (likely entirely overstated) tunnel network across borders and a (likely entirely overstated) Mediterranean smuggling operation. That gets you a very limited set of imports from Egypt and perhaps Lebanon, Syria, Cyprus, or Turkey if they can really stretch it without the IDF noticing. None of these countries are doing regular direct trade with a small largely agrarian country on the opposite side of Asia. Nothing from North Korea is getting through the Suez Canal, nevermind it getting packed in across the entire length of Russia. Certainly not a militia's worth of rocket propelled grenades. Come the fuck on.

This shit is almost certainly all home grown. From Egypt or Syria? Very likely. Robbed from the Israelis? Definitely possible. Brought in from Iraq? Sure. Brought in from Iran? Maybe. Brought in from Ukraine? Not outside the bounds of possibility. Brought in from the opposite side of the hemisphere? Give me a fucking break. Might as well claim they're receiving arms from Haiti or Nunavut.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

real north korean arms are in the levant from when the USSR facilitated them sending arms there, it's not at all unbelievable they're genuine but a bit beyond the pale to suggest korea specifically shipped it to Hamas recently. the news mega is a little weird about id'ing weapon provenance and extrapolating direct shipments/support when even iranian weapons are very likely mostly from middle men procuring them from the direct support iran gives iraqi groups or hezbollah

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

No, the identification was not produced by the IOF, but other users in the news mega. Anyway you're clearly an expert so I'll defer to you.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

Anyway you're clearly an expert

You don't have to be an expert on arms trade to know that two countries under intense surveillance and at vast distances will have a very difficult time conducting an arms trade.

"How could this be possible?" isn't a question anyone seems capable of seriously answering.

[-] RedDawn@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

People have literally answered you, and you would probably get even better engagement asking the question straightforwardly, instead of rhetorically, trying to insist that it isn't happening based on vibes.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

NK -> China -> Ship to Egypt -> Tunnel to Gaza

Or NK -> Russia -> Syria -> Lebanese Hezbollah -> Gaza

What's israel gonna do, inspect every piece of cargo from China that goes through the suez canal?

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

Dude DPRK has been involved in materially supporting Palestine for decades. You are not adequately informed here to speak so confidently

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How is the DPRK smuggling this shit in? What is that supply line even supposed to look like?

Back in 2010, a bunch of Turkish activists tried to send a flotilla to Gaza. They were intercepted and attacked by Israeli forces. That was before the renewed Israeli conflict with Lebanon and the US bombing of Syria, and when the southern border with Egypt wasn't sealed shut. You can't just move in and out of Gaza unmolested. No more than you could take a sailboat to Cuba.

How the fuck is the DPRK getting hundreds of rounds of munitions into a country that struggles to keep itself fed? This seems like a huge stretch to simply take at face value.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

DPRK: We are materially supporting Palestinian resistance

Hamas: We receive material support from DPRK

Palestinian Protesters: Holding up signs of KJU and Putin

Western Media: North Korea is arming Hamas

You: But HOW COULD IT BE??!

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

you could explain how international arms smuggling works and be a snarky shit at the same time

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

How am I supposed to know about international arm smuggling routes? This user doesn’t either. All parties involved agree it’s happening

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

North Korean ships to Russia

Russia ships to domestic and regional arms dealers

Arms dealers smuggle their weapons into Palestine

Turkey, Syria, and Egypt are all next to Israel. There are people there who have sympathies with Palestine but not Russia/NK, or with both Palestine and Russia/NK, or with none of them and want a paycheck. The underworld is full of strange bedfellows. The CIA and MI5/6 were once filled with communists.

There are also reports that some IDF units have been smuggling weapons to Hamas as well. If you’re lucky to turn a border guard or someone else critical to the supply chain, you can pass through undetected.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

NK -> China -> Egypt -> Gaza

Even without Chinese support NK can probably smuggle things into China. Israel and the US does not have any ability to monitor every shipment from China to Egypt directly, let alone all goods going through the suez canal. There's definitely tunnels from Gaza to Egypt.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago

I mean, Hezbollah was literally trained by the DPRK who also taught them the tunneling system. They fought very well against Israel in 2006.

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

Hezbollah was literally trained by the DPRK

HUH

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

When you thought NK couldn't be more based

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago
[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

I can't imagine how the logistics of a NK to Gaza support network is supposed to even function.

Containersubmarines ...obviously.

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

If you think quantum mechanics is weird and crazy, wait until you hear what juche mechanics can do.

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Juche entanglment soviet-bottom

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Im sure there are ways, Hamas weapons and missiles come from somewhere.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

i thought the missiles came from a hardware store or salvaged building supplies

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

North Korea borders Russia, and Russia is connected to Palestine through land and through friendly nations. Also, you don’t need to have a North Korean physically smuggle weapons and food to Palestine. You just need a lot of money to pay someone near the territories to do it for you.

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