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[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Reminds me of an article I read long time ago of the need in computer games to tweak percentage chance of success and failure, because if it is true as presented 80% success rate players think it should be "almost always" and complain when one fifth of attempts fail.

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Me when the weather app says 80% chance of rain, so I go everywhere with an umbrella but it's overcast all day long. Then it says 15% and I get rained on while walking to the store.

I'm never going to learn.

[–] Radio_717@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I found out recently that those percentages actually mean 80% of the local AREA would have rain and 20% would not. Meaning if there is a chance of rain in your town at all it’s likely raining somewhere even if it’s just a tiny drop or two.

So if you don’t want to get wet at all bring an umbrella if the chance is over 0%.

Source: was talking to a meteorologist about this exact thing.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Well rain chance is a compound probability it's the probability that it will or will not rain multiplied by the percent of land hit with rain. Like if 50% of an area will be hit and there's an 80% chance it will rain the number the weather Channel will give you is 40%

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

Chance of rain is calculated based on two things: Meteorologists' educated guess on the chance of rain, multiplied by the area that will receive rain, in the event it does rain.

https://www.discovery.com/science/chance-of-rain

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pokemon players are very versed in this. This is why I only use 100% hit rate moves.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Not to mention Xcom.

Missing a 90% shot 3 times is so dam annoying.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In gen 1 that would be only Swift, Bide and self-targeting status moves because every 100% accuracy move can miss due to a bug (1/256). Fun fact: you would actually be able to beat the game with these 2 moves because Bide, in gen 1 only, bypasses Ghost's immunity to Normal moves.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hot take. FireRed > Red so I never need to play gen1 even if I am feeling nostalgic.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Mechanically, the remakes are objectively the better games and they also offer more gameplay-wise with new moves, more logical movesets, abilities, nature, actual EV system. The next big improvement was the physical/special split in Gen5.

I still play the gen1 games from time to time tho. They are hilarious.

[–] teft@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a big complaint for new players to Baldurs gate 3. People think a 95% chance to hit won’t fail but it does sometimes. Just the luck of the dice.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

'drop rates' are the same thing. 10% chance doesn't mean you will see it drop if you run a mission or defeat that boss ten times.

[–] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Or thinking that if you didn't get the drop in 9 attempts, you're practically guaranteed it in the next attempt.

Nope, still 1 in 10 chance.

In most simple written RNG calculations, past failures do not guarantee future success.

I believe some games will keep a tally of failures and award a successful loot after x failures to avoid frustrating players.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BG3 literally has setting for this.

[–] teft@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't use it though. The karmic dice system works for enemies too. So if you enable the system your rolls will fail less often but so will the enemy's dice rolls. With karmic dice on I find the enemies crit me more. Especially on tactician mode.

[–] bilboswaggings@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah Pity systems are quite common Also used in loot boxes to keep you buying with the terrible odds they have

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I learned this very VERY well when I played Ragnarok Online in my teens.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

There was a huge fight about this on The Battle for Wesnoth