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They own brands such as Pampers, Olay, Old Spice, Pantene, Oral B, Herbal Essences, Gilette, Dove, Hellmann's, Axe, Knorr, Magnum, Breyers, and Lipton, among others.

See here: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jul/03/unilever-named-international-sponsor-of-war-by-ukraine

And here: https://sanctions.nazk.gov.ua/en/boycott/

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[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The problem being, the other companies that could provide an alternative to their products are about as harmful (Nestlé, Mondelez, Johnson and Johnson, etcetera). At this point, we should start learning how to grow our own food and make our own soap

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have an idea. We steal lard from plastic surgeons, turn it into soap, and then sell it back to the rich bastards.

[–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I like where this is going..

[–] malloc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] b3an@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

“Only in death will we have our own names since only in death are we no longer part of the effort. In death we become heroes.”

[–] AlephBaker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

His name is Robert Paulson

[–] halfelfhalfreindeer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

These are pretty common products. There are tons of ethical alternatives, in fact personal care items are among the easiest and cheapest products to find ethical alternatives for and a good starting point if you want to develop more ethical consumption habits. You don't need to make your own soap in order to avoid sponsoring genocide.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

We've started a community at https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion to track all sponsors of Russian invasion of Ukraine. Come over and help us name & shame the SoRI lot.

Feel free to spread the word.

[–] toasteecup@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hook me up with some knowledge please, cause fuck those fucking fuckers.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

We've started a community at https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion to track all sponsors of Russian invasion of Ukraine. Come over and help us name & shame the SoRI lot.

Feel free to spread the word.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I like Rocky mountain soap co for bars of soap. Their aloe soap fixed my dry hands after one use when I was overwashing them early on in the pandemic.

I use a lush shampoo bar, though tbh I don't know if the company's ownership is any better. I'm assuming they are but don't have anything other than their own material to back that up.

[–] halfelfhalfreindeer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] toasteecup@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

I'm in the states, east coast of that has an impact

[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...unless you don't live in the States, where access to alternative brands is much more limited in scope.

[–] halfelfhalfreindeer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Frankly that's an excuse, and a lazy one at that. Ethical products are widely available outside of the US, and I say this as a digital nomad who has lived on three continents and lived in the US for less than a year in total. If the inconvenience is unbearable for you then that's your prerogative, but don't try to justify it by saying things that simply aren't true and thereby discouraging others.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Can you provide some links so we have a starting point? Simply googling Ethical Shampoo is going to bring about a disheartening and probably half fake onslaught of results that would be nearly impossible to sort through.

[–] Kerrigor@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not everyone can afford such alternatives. It isn't simply a matter of inconvenience, it's a matter of access and expense.

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

also a crap excuse… P&G don’t make cheap products; they make brand name products… plenty of home brand stuff is cheap, and doesn’t actively support russias genocide

there are other discussions to be had about environmental impact, pay gap, etc but that’s not what we’re discussing

[–] Kerrigor@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm referring to ones that are made by non-controversial companies. It's difficult to find products that aren't made by the same companies just under a different name. Finding ethical alternatives isn't as simple as "don't buy P&G", and isn't cheap either

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

there are (at least) 2 things that boycotts are meant to do:

  • directly deny funding to the company which will pass that onto “causes” you disagree with
  • make a statement that you and others disagree with decisions the company is making

in the first point, switching to a different brand produced by the same company clearly does nothing unless the at product has a lower margin (which isn’t even unlikely either: plenty of brands do the “budget”, “midrange”, “luxury” brand concept and budget is where they make their least overhead)

on the second however, that’s where you can maybe make a difference… if a company starts to see market share dip in their big name products, that’s problematic for them even if people are switching to other products in their line that are less well known, because it shows that people have more negative attitudes to their brands

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Mondelez is also a sponsor of Russia's war on Ukraine.

We've started a community at https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion to track all sponsors of Russsian invasion of Ukraine. Come over and help us name & shame the SoRI lot.

Feel free to spread the word.

[–] MrsEaves@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ll start: avoid Hellman’s easily by making your own mayo. If the eggs squick you out, or you just want bonus points, I use this vegan garlic mayo recipe. It keeps for weeks and I don’t miss mayo at all. This requires a blender - any kind is fine.

Soap: someone near you makes bars of this that are better quality and sells them for roughly $5, I guarantee it. If not, making it is pretty straightforward as long as you follow instructions carefully and use established recipes. If you want to go custom, you can also use a lye calculator. This one requires an immersion blender.

Breyer’s/ice cream in general: Get yourself some xanthan gum for regular dairy, and add soy lecithin to your list if you want to do vegan ice creams. The xanthan gum inhibits ice crystals for a smooth and creamy texture, and helps with scoopability. Soy lecithin helps emulsify oil and water, so you can use it to bring up the fat content of soy or oat bases to be closer to a heavy cream. Requires a blender.

Gillette: get a safety razor. Mine’s a vintage lady Gillette I got off eBay. You will save so much money on blades it’s not even funny.

Lipton: your local grocery store might have loose leaf tea in the bulk section. If so, try that first. If not, check out Arbor Teas instead. Small business, fair trade, high quality stuff, and the packaging is completely compostable, making it an awesome zero waste choice.

[–] acrobot@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not saying you are wrong in your recommendations, but I also use safety razors and almost all razor blades are produced by manufacturers bought by P&G any way :(

[–] MrsEaves@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ughhhh really? That’s a bummer. :(

Well, at least it’s less money. Thank you for the heads up :) Honestly, I’d give up shaving if I could stand it, but I’ve tried and can’t stand the physical feeling of hairy legs.

At this rate you'll have to go find a local blacksmith. Or maybe become your own local blacksmith, if you can afford the tools.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This list is a great alternative to funding villains.

We've started a community at https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion to track all sponsors of Russian invasion of Ukraine. Could you pop over and share your list and knowledge?

[–] MrsEaves@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve actually got quite a bit of these sort of recommendations that I think I’m going to compile into something easier to navigate based on what you don’t want to support - but feel free to share a link to this comment in the meantime!

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MrsEaves@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)