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[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah... I feel like one of those is significantly fucking worse than the other. Almost like one is an abhorrent thing that the president has been forced into by decades of the US being closely tied with Israel and due to a truly psychotic amount of Israeli lobbying done in the States that could completely upend the election

Then you have the other...

The dude who has said he would lock up opponents, kill migrants, jail journalists, commit crimes against his own people, sterilize Americans, kill his own people, encourages acts of violence against innocent people and the disabled, revoke democracy, install fascism and take control of the planets largest military while being directly controlled by a foreign terrorist state and who has OPENLY said he supports Bibi multiple times.

I feel like one of those is SIGNIFICANTLY FUCKING WORSE.

This isn't a "Oh both sides suck and idk what to doooooo" situation. This is the best progressive president the US has had in decades versus Orange Hitler. Getting real sick of these takes that use exactly zero brain power. Anyone who makes them are either wildly uneducated in American politics, are a bad actor/troll, are a hateful person or is a moron.

[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You think that Biden was forced into this? Did somebody put a gun to his head? Do you honestly believe that Bernie Sanders would've said the same things if he were president?

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You think that Biden was forced into this?

Do you honestly believe that Bernie Sanders would’ve said the same things if he were president?

Yes and I think your belief that he wouldn't shows an insane lack of understanding when it comes to party politics and the power of the office of the President.

[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, it's very easy for you to make a claim like that, because it's impossible for me to disprove it, but I find it implausible. For one thing, Trump did a lot of things that people thought were impossible for a president to do.

Again, nobody held a gun to Biden's head.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The things Trump did that were impossible were crimes. He didn't do anything himself otherwise that had any impact. His party did. The house did. The Senate did. The supreme court did. He didn't do anything personally at all. The President has way less power than you seem to comprehend. They are at the whims of Congress. You must have their support to do anything. Bernie would not have that support, as much as it would be nice.

You are not painting a realistic picture of the executive office.

Also, the gun is metaphorical. It is that support I was talking about.