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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I don't particularly like him either, but if he doesn't run again, it becomes significantly easier for Trump to get reelected. Pick your poison. I'd rather Biden than Trump, so I want him to stay running and I'll vote for him again.

Maybe you should vote for a write-in candidate if you feel that strongly about it? Just know that whatever you write, it will spell "Trump."

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think Biden should drop out.

I also don’t think Biden should be the automatic nominee. There should be a full primary election, and whoever wins that (maybe Biden, maybe someone else) goes to the general.

Biden has done a bunch of good stuff, but he’s also woefully out of touch on an absolute FUCKTON of issues that non-boomer voters give a whole hell of a lot of shits about. I am so fucking done with gerontocracy.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

but if he doesn’t run again, it becomes significantly easier for Trump to get reelected.

Biden disagrees...

He just said a week or so ago that "at least 50 other Dems" could beat trump.

The polls disagree too, they show that Biden doesn't have a very good chance against trump.

We ignored those polls in 2016 to run an unpopular candidate, and trump was elected.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The polls in 2016 showed Clinton beating Trump.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

For popular vote nationwide...

State polls for battleground states was very concerning with a lot Dems took for granted had results for Clinton but margain of error showed a trump win possible.

That's where Republicans focused effort, while Clinton was going to states like Cali on her preemptive victory lap

The thing was, pointing that out before the election got shouted down by moderates and you would be accused of wanting her to lose.

Pretty much what's happening now with 2024...

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

The only polls that favored Hillary were ones that only polled her established demographic. NONE of them included the 18-34yo demographic, and heavily leaned female polling

[–] nocturne213@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

An unpopular candidate that won the popular vote in 2016?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

After boosting trump in the primary because she thought he was her easiest opponent...

She was willing to risk trump winning because it was her best chance to be president.

But even that wasn't enough to get her in office due to her campaign team not understanding what the electoral college is and instead campaigning for the popular vote...

Which pretty much sums up why she's so unpopular. She gambled with America and lost because she wanted to be able to say she got more votes than Obama.

Again, that's something that would have happened organically because of constant population increase.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

She was the favorite of the superdelegates/party darlings as well. Also she by far isn't the only Democrat who helps the insane GOP candidates, that's like a common strategy to give money to the insane fascist, a bunch of Dem campaigns do this.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

She was so politically inept that she didn't take the electoral college into account. This is what happens when party leadership decides the winner before the primaries. They nominate someone who runs a coronation parade instead of a campaign.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

A generic Democratic Perry cannidate would be a safer choice. Draft a blue state governor or something

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why don't democrats run somebody better than Biden without all the baggage?

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For the same reasons I just cited.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Democrats running Biden would be the best thing for a Trump campaign.

They've already lost the republican vote. The best thing they can do is try to gain the independent one.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 0 points 10 months ago